KSquared
Literally Hell
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Walker wroteBear wrote I don't see why falling in love with someone who looks like Maggie Gyllenhaal is implausible.Not implausible. She just didn't seem very physically attractive in the movie (that photo above is not from the movie) and with so few lines, she wasn't really given much of a chance to shine in any other way.
I agree with Walker, I think she is a cute girl, but she was just blah in the film.
Rocknrolloutlaws
German Village
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So has anyone seen the IMAX version?
I searched and didn't see an answer in the thread so far.
I saw the regular version over the weekend, but I want to go back and see the IMAX one, see how it compares. I think it would be cool to see it in the IMAX format that's for sure.
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Motorist wroteCaD wrote oh yeah +1 the 'i'd fall for maggie in a minute' theme herewaaaaaaaaaay too cute for her own good
Wouldn't it be great if her death in this movie was just the first of her nine lives and she came back as Catwoman in the next movie? Catwoman in black latex and carrying a whip.
Come to think of it, she does have vaguely feline features.
Back later, gotta seed my flower beds with catnip.
rave_til_dawn
Minneapolis
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gsmittynd wrote I definitely think that Catwoman will be his love interest in the next movie. Did anyone notice that Fox made a point of mentioning that the new bat suit was cat resistant?
I caught that too!
I was glad to see someone other than Katie Holmes play Rachel. I really didn't like her in the last film, but thought Gyllenhaal wasn't the best choice.
Rocknrolloutlaws
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I thought Gyllenhall did an excellent job.
A lot of times I get distracted when an actor changes but the character doesn't. Such a switch definitely has the potential to take away from the overall movie experience for me (For example, the different voice for Abe in Hellboy II really really bothered me for some reason.)
That didn't happen with the Gyllenhall/Holmes switch. Indeed, it was the other way around. I was distracted by Holmes in the first one, she just felt out of place to me.
Andrew Hall
Dennison Place (The Circles)
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Back on where we go from here.
I think the League of Shadows would be well-played out here. Considering Al-Guul's stated ambition was the destruction of Gotham in the name of instability, what the Joker was doing ad hoc was right in the game. The demonization of Batman places him as now a tool for the League's goal - destruction of order - more than ever. Everything good he does will be against the law and, if he is lauded by the public for it, he further contributes to the disrespect of the law and authority.
That is the perfect moral ambuiguity and tension which the Dark Knight theme explores best. I don't care as much about the who villain as the what theme.
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Columbuzz
Grandview
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ratzo wrote Just came back from seeing it. Good but not great. Got sick of Bale's Bat-growl very quickly, Ledger had his moments but spent way too much time chewing almost as much scenery as Nicholson did, and there a few too many leaps in logic needed to believe in this story. However, Aaron Eckart was terrific, the action was mind-blowing, and the ending was a fascinating surprise I didn't expect. I recommend seeing it, but do not buy into all the hype surrounding it.
I *almost* 100% agree with everything here.
As a film, I thought it was very good. As a Batman movie, I thought it was just good.
I was expecting to see more Batman, even more Bruce Wayne. There really wasn't as much as I hoped and I didn't see as much of the whole conflicted Batman that I felt should have been shown. I didn't really learn much about Batman, nor Bruce Wayne. I would have loved to have seen more of a transformation into Bruce Wayne, actually - from spoiled rich kid as in Batman Begins to understanding who he needs to be in the public eye and how to act as a debonair socialite, not a philandering playboy.
Basically, I felt that this could have been a GREAT film if Batman were replaced by some FBI agent or someone (John McClain, anyone? j/k) chasing some insane individual, a la Silence of the Lambs (one of my most favorite films). If it had been that movie, it would have topped Silence of the Lambs. As it stands, it's definitely one of the better Batman movies, but not the caliber of Batman Begins - mainly because there wasn't enough of Bale and too much Heath (although he was very good). But I guess that's part of the problem with an ensemble cast, though. And I definitely agree, Aaron Eckhart = awesome.
I like the Nolan Bros., but after they achieved success with Memento (they also have a great film - 'Following' - which was very interesting if anyone's seen it), they've been trying to outdo themselves and give the audience twists and turns they didn't see coming. That's great in the indy world, but gets old in the blockbuster film world. I feel like they're trying to become the next Wachowski Bros. (as in the original 'Matrix' Wachowski bros, which I think is exactly what the current Wachowski bros are trying to be). I almost feel like they spent too much time trying to make the Joker character so horrifying and the makeup on Two Face so disgusting so they could shock the audience. Don't get me wrong, it worked! Just didn't do it for me as a Batman film.
Oh, and, count me in as a fan of Maggie, too :) I thought she was fantastic in 'Secretary' and definitely a step up from Katie Holmes in this film... not great, but then again the film didn't lend itself to her to be some fantastic actress who would be up for a best supporting oscar.
Mercurius
First Avenue
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"Either you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain"
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9231S501&show_article=1
Batman (Christian Bale) arrested for beating up his mom and sister :shock: :lol: :shock:
Bear
The woods
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CaD wrote in england, verbal and physical abuse are treated the same by the law
Whoever made that law, must have known my father.
Fortunately he didn't cut loose on us much... but when he took after somebody with his tongue, you almost wished he'd used his fists instead.
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CaD wrote in england, verbal and physical abuse are treated the same by the law
:shock:
That surprises me. Some of the most inspired verbal abuse I've ever been on the receiving end of came from Brits. Perhaps because they can't vent there, they've had plenty of time to think about it for when they go abroad?
Maybe Bale had been spending too much time in LA?
honavery
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I saw the regular version over the weekend, but I want to go back and see the IMAX one, see how it compares. I think it would be cool to see it in the IMAX format that's for sure.
I saw the IMAX one last night. The IMAX scenes were stunning. Mainly the big shots of Hong Kong, Chicago-hattan, and the pacific ocean. Very high definition too, it was super cool.
I loved the movie. I agree with some of the problems listed, but not all. Maggie was fine I thought, I was sad when she died. Eckhart was surprisingly awesome. Not much left to be said about Ledger. So many little great things about that performance. Things like the way he walks away from the hospital when it's blowing up. All the little ticks. And how he managed to be funny but terrifying at the same time.
Nit picks for me were, some of the editing was a bit of a mess. Mainly the last scene where Batman is fighting all those goons with the sonar turned on. And something got cut when he saves Rachel when the joker lets her fall out the window. What happened to the rest of the guests at the party? The Joker just left?
I think what happened with Batman going after Rachel: The Joker switched the addresses. Batman yells "I'm going after Rachel" so Gordon goes after Dent. That was kind of like Silence of the Lambs where you expect Batman to burst in on Rachel, but it's Harvey instead.
The Bat Bike or whatever was super bad ass too. Some great audience reaction when he is doing all those crazy tricks with it.
I also could of used a bit more Bale in this. It was almost like he was more of a supporting actor in this. I loved how he worked with the cops though. How he wasn't really a traditional superhero, just a super bad ass covert SWAT team member.
I also loved the little Jokers theme they would play, just like that one oscillating note when he was on screen. Very simple but effective.
Overall, I was more than happy with this. I don't know if it will win any awards, but I don't really care. I'm just glad I got to see such a dark/bad ass Batman movie in my life time.
As for a sequel....I almost hope they just stop here. This will be hard to top. But as much money as this is making, it will almost certainly have one. For now, I'll just enjoy the moment.
I absolutley loved how it ended too. Gordon's little monologue, with Batman riding out of the Tunnel, the music swells, and Gordon calls him "a Dark Knight". So fucking cool.
Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark knight.
some dude in clintonville
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Saw it for the second time tonight, at the 10:30 show at lennox 24.
Awesome.
Brant
Gahanna
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Did anyone else get the Joker's double jeopardy scenario, putting both Rachel and Harvey in death traps and forcing Batman to choose whom he would rescue, and connect it to Sophie's Choice?
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Moreover, does the Joker make Batman break his "one rule"?
somertimeoh
Harrison West
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Finally got to see it this weekend. Soooo good. I would love to see it again!
somertimeoh
Harrison West
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Angel wrote where are the imax ones? just at crosswoods?yes i still haven't seen it. :(
Easton is IMAX. I think Crossroads is just enhanced, not really IMAX, but I could be wrong. Another one like Crossroads in Pickerington that again, I'm not sure is real IMAX. If you go to moviefone.com or something like that it will tell you if it's an IMAX showing or not.
Bear
The woods
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Brant Jones wrote So, who should be in the next Batman movie?As far as love interests go, now that Bruce is single again I would naturally assume they'd bring back Catwoman. But I think that god-awful Halle Berry movie is still too recent (2004) to give that character a proper reboot.
Perhaps they should do something really radical, and take the next movie in a Brokeback-Mountain sort of direction.
Hey, there's a precedent in the comics:
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