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drew

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Animal lovers may not want to watch this.

The video below is one of the most gut-wrenchingly awful things I've ever seen. There is nothing particularly graphic in it that I can recall (at least visually - not really inclined to watch again to verify...), but... man... just heart breaking and, at least in my opinion, outrageously offensive.

This is posted with no intent other than to drive home how horrific no-knock SWAT raids are. The police's haul on this raid - misdemeanor quantities of marijuana. This happens all the time.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Core_Models
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I have known people who experienced this, including a guy who's Maltese was shot in the head (it weighed about 11 pounds). I can say, for sure, that if the cops ever showed up to arrest me...I'm coming in without incident. If the cops showed up and shot Bugsy, I'm not coming in at all.

Posted 2 years ago #
osulew
My house...in the middle of my street
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I'm not even gonna begin to click on the play button. But yea...what DL said...

Posted 2 years ago #
cory
Columbus / Upper Arlington
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<knock,knock> .."Police here. We're here to serve a search warrant. Please dispose of any illegal substances and secure all potentially dangerous animals before we enter. Thanks you for your cooperation"

Posted 2 years ago #
Core_Models
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cory wrote >>
<knock,knock> .."Police here. We're here to serve a search warrant. Please dispose of any illegal substances and secure all potentially dangerous animals before we enter. Thanks you for your cooperation"

If your concept is to just kill anything that may pose a threat to officers in a pot bust, why don't we just set up snipers for Comfest and open fire?

Posted 2 years ago #
Roland
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Can someone remind me what terrorism is again?

Posted 2 years ago #
drew

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From here:

After he watched it, my more temperate better half was literally shaking with anger. My anger is mixed with a sort of bleak despair that this sort of thing could happen in America, and worse, that so few people care. You shoot two dogs in front of a seven year old--who could have been killed by a stray round, and at the very least will carry this hideous recollection to the grave. And why? For misdemeanor pot possession?

No, say the police; they executed the warrant too late. Had they come earlier, undoubtedly they would have found . . . dealer sized amounts of pot.

This response is nonsensical. It's like hearing that they came too late to catch the family bootlegging cable. Sure it's illegal, and maybe it's even wrong. But "dealer-sized" pot possession isn't necessarily related to actual drug dealings--I have several friends right now who probably qualify, and I'm pretty sure they aren't going to do anything that merits a SWAT intervention, because those sorts of things can get you drummed right out of your Tuesday-night book club, not to mention how they'd take it at the Rotary.

Posted 2 years ago #
Core_Models
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/us/30lima.html

I suppose we could rewrite your post to:

<knock,knock> .."Police here. We're here to serve a search warrant. Please dispose of any illegal substances and secure all potentially dangerous mothers and infants before we enter. Thanks you for your cooperation"

Posted 2 years ago #
cory
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Core_Models wrote >>

cory wrote >>
<knock,knock> .."Police here. We're here to serve a search warrant. Please dispose of any illegal substances and secure all potentially dangerous animals before we enter. Thanks you for your cooperation"

If your concept is to just kill anything that may pose a threat to officers in a pot bust, why don't we just set up snipers for Comfest and open fire?

Hardly.
1) Do you know the facts of this specific case or the parties involved? No. The SWAT team doesn't kick in doors for petty marijuana dealings.

2( Did you see what kind of dog was shot? Because I didn't. It might have been an attack trained pitbull for all you know.

3) Officers enforcing the law have a right to their safety. They don't know what kind of situation they're walking into when they enter someone's house to serve a COURT ORDERED search warrant. Perhaps you have a better suggestion as of how to be sensitive to animal rights when serving a high risk search warrant.

4) Don't compare this to police officers who killed an infant. Human life is far more precious than someone's dog. The right to safety extends to the SWAT team as well.

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Core_Models
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1) Do you know the facts of this specific case or the parties involved? No. The SWAT team doesn't kick in doors for petty marijuana dealings.

-You're right...they thought there was going to be more pot there. The reason they thought there was going to be more pot there, btw, is because a couple of douchebags told them that this guy sold pot. Not because they had actually bought pot from him undercover, or had photographs or video of him selling pot.

2( Did you see what kind of dog was shot? Because I didn't. It might have been an attack trained pitbull for all you know.

-One was a pitbull...the other was a fucking CORGI.

3) Officers enforcing the law have a right to their safety. They don't know what kind of situation they're walking into when they enter someone's house to serve a COURT ORDERED search warrant. Perhaps you have a better suggestion as of how to be sensitive to animal rights when serving a high risk search warrant.

-First of all, a pot service isn't a high risk warrant IMO. The "suspect" had a history of two DUI's, no registered weapons, and no history of violence, drugs, or even felonies. Police were told by two "C.I.'s" that he had felony level quantities of pot in the house...that's it. "High Risk Warrant" is now used to describe virtually any drug warrant, and that's ridiculous. Second of all, I would suggest using more information than a couple snitches to determine what is going on in a house before kicking in the door and opening fire. Perhaps a controlled buy? Surveillance? You know, police work...

4) Don't compare this to police officers who killed an infant. Human life is far more precious than someone's dog

-to you.

Posted 2 years ago #
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cory wrote >>
1) Do you know the facts of this specific case or the parties involved? No. The SWAT team doesn't kick in doors for petty marijuana dealings.
2( Did you see what kind of dog was shot? Because I didn't. It might have been an attack trained pitbull for all you know.

WHAT IF THE DOG WAS A WEREWOLF

DID YOU SEE WHAT KIND OF BULLETS THE POLICE WERE FIRING BECAUSE I DIDN'T AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE LOOKING IT UP--PROBABLY THEY WERE SILVER BULLETS THOUGH

DON'T COMPARE THIS TO POLICE OFFICERS WHO KILLED SOMEONE THINKING THEY WERE A FRANKENSTINE B/C WEREWOLFS WILL TEAR YOU RIGHT THE SHIT UP I MEAN FUCK

~~cory~~

Posted 2 years ago #
groundrules

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oh shit. </slow clap>

Posted 2 years ago #
cory
Columbus / Upper Arlington
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JimL2 wrote >>

cory wrote >>
1) Do you know the facts of this specific case or the parties involved? No. The SWAT team doesn't kick in doors for petty marijuana dealings.
2( Did you see what kind of dog was shot? Because I didn't. It might have been an attack trained pitbull for all you know.

WHAT IF THE DOG WAS A WEREWOLF
DID YOU SEE WHAT KIND OF BULLETS THE POLICE WERE FIRING BECAUSE I DIDN'T AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE LOOKING IT UP--PROBABLY THEY WERE SILVER BULLETS THOUGH
DON'T COMPARE THIS TO POLICE OFFICERS WHO KILLED SOMEONE THINKING THEY WERE A FRANKENSTINE B/C WEREWOLFS WILL TEAR YOU RIGHT THE SHIT UP I MEAN FUCK

~~cory~~

lmao!

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JimL2

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cory wrote >>
lmao!

yeah that sounds about right

"two dogs dead u got swatted lmao"

Posted 2 years ago #
Core_Models
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1. I miss JL2, particularly his movie reviews.

2. I could redefine high risk warrant for you, and at the top of the list would be "any warrant where we shoot Dave's dog".

Posted 2 years ago #
cory
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Core_Models wrote >>
1) Do you know the facts of this specific case or the parties involved? No. The SWAT team doesn't kick in doors for petty marijuana dealings.
-You're right...they thought there was going to be more pot there. The reason they thought there was going to be more pot there, btw, is because a couple of douchebags told them that this guy sold pot. Not because they had actually bought pot from him undercover, or had photographs or video of him selling pot.
2( Did you see what kind of dog was shot? Because I didn't. It might have been an attack trained pitbull for all you know.
-One was a pitbull...the other was a fucking CORGI.
3) Officers enforcing the law have a right to their safety. They don't know what kind of situation they're walking into when they enter someone's house to serve a COURT ORDERED search warrant. Perhaps you have a better suggestion as of how to be sensitive to animal rights when serving a high risk search warrant.
-First of all, a pot service isn't a high risk warrant IMO. The "suspect" had a history of two DUI's, no registered weapons, and no history of violence, drugs, or even felonies. Police were told by two "C.I.'s" that he had felony level quantities of pot in the house...that's it. "High Risk Warrant" is now used to describe virtually any drug warrant, and that's ridiculous. Second of all, I would suggest using more information than a couple snitches to determine what is going on in a house before kicking in the door and opening fire. Perhaps a controlled buy? Surveillance? You know, police work...
4) Don't compare this to police officers who killed an infant. Human life is far more precious than someone's dog
-to you.

OK.. I didn't see anything about this guy or have the time to run his background check. Glad you did. Yes, obviously, they should have done some more police work and no, they should not have raided his house based on what someone said. The judge shouldn't have issued a warrant for his house to be raided without propable cause. Since you know so much about the case, why don't you write a letter to the judge who issued the warrant and undermine the years of experience it took him or her to obtain that position? You could even start a fund to raise money for awareness for your cause. Or you could sit on your computer and slander people you don't know on a messageboard.

Yes, human life is more precious than animal life to me. If a dog attacked my mother or son I would show no mercy or compassion for it's life.

I agree with you for the most part, but to say that this is as terrible as an infant being killed is ludacris. I don't see anyone starting a thread thanking the SWAT team for killing that black woman and injuring her baby...

Posted 2 years ago #
Tod S
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LiveLeak posted a two part video that covers countless instances of police brutality and misconduct. It's pretty hard to watch too.

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I thought Part Two was most unsettling. Apparently you can get arrested for showing up at a police station to file a complaint about abuse.

Posted 2 years ago #
somertimeoh
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Someone's already tired of working OT ;)

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cory
Columbus / Upper Arlington
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I thought Part Two was most unsettling. Apparently you can get arrested for showing up at a police station to file a complaint about abuse.

Posted 2 years ago #
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cory wrote >>
Yes, human life is more precious than animal life to me. If a dog attacked my mother or son I would show no mercy or compassion for it's life.

To you.

I'd happily kill, gut, butcher and cook yours or anyone else's children to feed my dog, should circumstances require it.

And anyone shoots this guy:
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and my reaction would be like Core's.

ETA: And now, apparently Cory broke the intarweb. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS, PEOPLE.

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