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Suburban Office Parks Poses Challenge For COTA
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lifeontwowheels
Highland West
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ehill27 said:
http://www.streetfilms.org/bus-rapid-transit-bogota/One of my favorites. Don't hold your breath here.
IIRC, COTAs funding stream from the sales tax revenue is only for Franklin County, correct? So there's the first big hurdle some have touched on. You'd have to present a well thought out plan to entice the vote for a larger funding stream.
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heresthecasey
Funkytown
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Cole
Hilltop
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ZHC said:
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That perfectly describes the nature of the problem COTA has in terms of getting ridershsip.As long as COTA shares a right-of-way, the best case scenario for COTA is to be as fast as a car on surface streets. The questions are: how much slower is taking the bus and what is an acceptable amount of time to spend in transit? Depending on the parking situation, there may be some time savings due to parking.
Could they have more Crosstown routes? Certainly. An east-west corridor on the south side and a north-south corridor on the west side would be a great start.
One other thing to note, COTA has a Facebook Bus Stop Service Improvement album up and I highly recommend that people like it. #1 is the only local route affected as are a few Express routes.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.454402407903684.109705.213245672019360&type=1
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ehill27
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COTA's Long Range Transit Plan (2012-2035) can be found at http://www.cota.com/LongRangeTransitPlan.aspx.
Section 4 has expansion plans, including service maps and times. Section 4.7.4.5 states that "COTA intends to restore the real-time bus tracking feature to our website by 2013". W-O-R-D.
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Cole
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ehill27 said:
COTA's Long Range Transit Plan (2012-2035) can be found at http://www.cota.com/LongRangeTransitPlan.aspx.Section 4 has expansion plans, including service maps and times. Section 4.7.4.5 states that "COTA intends to restore the real-time bus tracking feature to our website by 2013". W-O-R-D.
Interestingly, the Short Range Transit Plan has information about Phase II of the farebox collection system being implemented by/in 2015. Phase II is the "addition of a stand-alone smart card system."
A smart card appears to be pre-paid fare along with other cool things and you can read more about it starting on page 6 of the following document:
http://www.cota.com/assets/Publications/12_SECTION_IX_ITS.pdf
I wonder if this has something to do with why off-board fare collections are not being investigated for the BRT route. If so, COTA should have publicized their switch to a Smart Card system more.
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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FROM HERE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/curtis-stitt-discusses-the-future-of-public-transit-in-columbus
WE: There’s a growing demand for new transit routes that reach out into to suburban neighborhoods and have destinations at suburban office parks and job centers. Is COTA’s role to respond to how suburban development patterns change over time, or to be more of a tool used enhance the livability of inner-city neighborhoods that are already dense and urban by design, and therefore easier to serve by transit?
CS: The way you asked that question – ‘responding to development’- that’s one of the issues that we grapple with. Oftentimes, developers, especially in the outlying suburban areas, don’t focus on the public transit needs of their development. They build something new and they configure in a way that isn’t conducive to public transit. We then often find that the developers come back to us and say, ‘we need employees to get to our new development and we can’t get them there.’ I think the big thing that we need to focus on as a community, is how do we look at our development regulations and incorporate some required public transit considerations so that when development is occurring, the accommodation of public transit has to be considered.READ MORE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/curtis-stitt-discusses-the-future-of-public-transit-in-columbus
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ehill27
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Walker said:
CS: ...We then often find that the developers come back to us and say, ‘we need employees to get to our new development and we can’t get them there.’.
Then perhaps the developer should fund the cost of the service expansion, or at least a healthy portion of it. This is almost like dropping an office building into the middle of an open field and then requesting the municipality build you a road.
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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ehill27 said:
Then perhaps the developer should fund the cost of the service expansion, or at least a healthy portion of it.I think the problem is that any type of service expansion to a suburban office park is just a bandaid for a much bigger issue. A service expansion of an existing line would shuttle people from Downtown to the office park, but wouldn't necessarily get workers to their jobs if the workers are living in various far flung cul-de-sacs scattered throughout the community and beyond. You need some form of density at both ends of the transit line, and while an office complex certainly has a dense destination, the travelers to that destination aren't coming from the same origin point that can be serviced well with a single line, or even really with several lines.
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70% of Central Ohio jobs within reach of public transit, Brookings study finds
Business First by Rick Rouan, Web coordinator
Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:58am EDTAccess to public transportation near jobs in the Columbus area ranks right around the middle of the pack among the largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., according to research by the Brookings Institution .
Brookings blames suburbanization for public transit’s shrinking ability to get commuters to work. That’s true too in Columbus, where the share of city jobs located near a public transportation stop jumps to 95 percent compared with 42 percent in the suburbs. In suburban Columbus, about 13 percent of commuters can get to work within 90 minutes via public transportation compared with 31.4 percent in the city.
READ MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2012/07/12/70-of-central-ohio-jobs-within-reach.htmlPosted 10 months ago # -
billbix
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* That is an interesting article. I live within 4 miles of Broad and High and COTA will not get me to work during my hours as the service ends too early.
I saw an article this morning that the job growth trend of moving to the suburbs is continuing.
America's jobs are moving to the suburbs
Suburbs now have twice the share of jobs as city centers, according to a new Brookings Institution report.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney
Despite a short reprieve during the recession, the number of jobs moving to the nation's suburbs grew over the last decade, potentially clogging roadways and reducing job access for the poor.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/18/news/economy/suburbs-jobs/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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'Job sprawl' in Columbus lower than in many cities, Brookings finds
UPDATED: Apr 18, 2013, 9:37am EDT
Evan Weese
Web coordinator-Business FirstJobs in Central Ohio aren’t quite as sprawled away from the central business district as they are in other large metro areas, data from a new Brookings report show.
READ MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/morning_call/2013/04/job-sprawl.htmlPosted 1 month ago # -
GCrites80s
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A common tactic.
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