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Started 3 years ago by coolbuckeye
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coolbuckeye
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Although Gov. Ted Stricklandâ€™s job approval rating is at its lowest point of the year, the governor appears to be in a strong position to win re-election in 2010, according to a new poll released Wednesday.

The survey showed that 46% of respondents would vote for the Democratic governor, while 26% said they would support an unidentified Republican.

Quinnipiac University also found that former U.S. Sen. Mike DeWine is the best-known of three potential GOP challengers. Former U.S. Reps. John Kasich and Rob Portman are not well known to 75% of voters.

The survey also shows that U.S. Sen. George Voinovich could face a tough campaign in 2010, with 36% saying he should have another term and 35% lending support for an unnamed Democrat.

More details in todayâ€™s Gongwer News Service Ohio Report.

Posted 3 years ago #
gramarye
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I think Voinovich will actually look stronger in 2010 than he does today--assuming he even wants to run again then. He's not the oldest Senator, but he's up there.
DeWine probably seems like the strongest challenger to Strickland just based on name recognition, but I don't think (a) DeWine would be able to mount a successful campaign against Strickland, or (b) that he's even going to feel like trying. I think the GOP will have pronounced recruiting problems finding a challenger for Strickland.

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Mercurius
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gramarye wrote I think Voinovich will actually look stronger in 2010 than he does today--assuming he even wants to run again then. He's not the oldest Senator, but he's up there.
DeWine probably seems like the strongest challenger to Strickland just based on name recognition, but I don't think (a) DeWine would be able to mount a successful campaign against Strickland, or (b) that he's even going to feel like trying. I think the GOP will have pronounced recruiting problems finding a challenger for Strickland.
Pretty sure you will see Kasich running as long as Strickland's drop continues. Having a 7.4 billion deficit, no tangible change in property taxes use for education funding and a floundering economy aren't on his side. He is either going to have to raise taxes or have massive government cuts, neither of which are going to be all that palatable to the general public. Meanwhile Kasich has been running a campaign already based on the Texas vs. Ohio economic article. Kasich is a hell lot more savvy than Blackwell (who ironically is campaigning for the chair of the RNC.) All that said, I've been happy with Strickland's performance. I just recognize his next two years are going to have some hard decisions.
http://politics.ohio.com/2008/03/28/2010-strickland-kasich-showdown/
http://blog.dispatch.com/dailybriefing/2008/03/strickland_questions_kasich_ta.shtml
http://blog.dispatch.com/politics/2008/09/former_us_rep_john_kasich.shtml
http://www.naugblog.com/2008/09/03/john-kasich-rips-ted-strickland-for-not-being-a-leader/
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/09/hannity_run_kasich_run.html
http://www.politickeroh.com/kasich-blasts-strickland-caretaker-not-leader

Posted 3 years ago #
UncommonSense
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I am surprised by this. I think Strickland has been taking a beating based on the Joe the Plumber incident. Helen Jones-Kelly should have been fired, IMO. Hard to run against corruption in state government with that incident in your hip pocket. Additionally, it looks like he will have his hands tied by budget constraints in dealing with his signature issue of education reform.
Also surprised that Kasich doesn't have higher name recognition, based on his years in Congress, and subsequent time on TV as a talking head. He has his own show on Fox for Pete's sake. I don't think DeWine is a good candidate for the GOP in '10, and figured Kasich would be the easy front-runner.

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joev
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I don't blame Strickland for Ohio's economic problems. He's reaping the meager harvest of decades of bad planning and policy. I think he's a shoo-in for 2010. I'm also think Voinovich will be in a good position for his re-election should he want it (I think he does.) I've always liked him - he's fairly moderate. Then again, I was surprised that Sherrod Brown (a far leftie) beat Mike DeWine (a semi-centrist) last go around.

Posted 3 years ago #
NerosNeptune
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aggh! isn't it too soon to start with election talk again? we just finished!
strickland should do fine though.

Posted 3 years ago #
Nitsud Regnifloh
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Looks like some trouble ahead for ol' Ted...what's everyone's thoughts? i know this board leans, almost topples to the left, so i am curious to know its thoughts on the new GOP ticket and Strickland's slim chance of victory.

Kasich Leads Gov. Strickland in New Poll
Republican challenger John Kasich is still leading incumbent Democrat Ted Strickland in the latest Rasmussen Reports poll on OhioÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s governor race.

The new poll, released on Thursday, Jan. 14, is telephone survey of likely voters in the state shows Kasich with a seven-point lead, 47 percent to 40 percent. Four percent like some other candidate, and eight percent (8%) are undecided.

Kasich led Strickland 48 percent to 39 percent in early December.

Male voters prefer Kasich by 19 points over Strickland. Women favor the incumbent by four.

Posted 2 years ago #
agtw31
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they just said on the news that Ted is toast

according to Rasmussen

Posted 2 years ago #
Nitsud Regnifloh
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i believe that. even among staffer and legislators, the support just isnt there.

Posted 2 years ago #
gramarye
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That's a shame. I think Strickland was dealt a bad hand and played it as best he could. And, as I noted on the other election thread, I'm underwhelmed by Kasich, even though I'm more conservative than most CU regulars.

Strickland is a conservative Democrat, which is an endangered species nationally (most conservatives will go for Republicans, whereas most liberals would rather have a more liberal Democrat), but which I think is a good fit for Ohio, which remains a purple state.

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Nitsud Regnifloh
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Played as best he could? He hasnt really done much besides suck up to Obama and insist on one-time funds for our budget instead of cut agency budgets and increased spending yet again in the state. The hole for next budget is already at $5 billion. with a B.

Posted 2 years ago #
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Whoever is governor in January 2011 is in for a big world of hurt when the next budget discussions begin. No party or individual has shown any leadership this past year dealing with fundamental budget problems. They just keep pushing the hardest decisions down the road & next year that will be impossible.

However, Strickland has cut income taxes 21% while in office.

Meanwhile, Kasich did not utter a peep about how he would balance Ohio's budget. Instead, he wants to decimate it by doing away with Ohio's income tax altogether, with no explanation whatsoever as to how he would replace that revenue.

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gramarye
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von wrote >>
Played as best he could? He hasnt really done much besides suck up to Obama and insist on one-time funds for our budget instead of cut agency budgets and increased spending yet again in the state. The hole for next budget is already at $5 billion. with a B.

Even with all that, there have been substantial cuts.

Also, rustbelt is, to my knowledge, correct with respect to Kasich's silence on how he would budget any better. Ohio labors under a number of federal mandates that restrain what budgets we're even allowed to cut, including some of the big ones (major entitlements).

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Nitsud Regnifloh
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rustbelt wrote >>
Whoever is governor in January 2011 is in for a big world of hurt when the next budget discussions begin. No party or individual has shown any leadership this past year dealing with fundamental budget problems. They just keep pushing the hardest decisions down the road & next year that will be impossible.
However, Strickland has cut income taxes 21% while in office.
Meanwhile, Kasich did not utter a peep about how he would balance Ohio's budget. Instead, he wants to decimate it by doing away with Ohio's income tax altogether, with no explanation whatsoever as to how he would replace that revenue.

why would he? he's not governor yet and doesnt have a staff to do all the number-crunching and policy/research work that Strickland has.

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rustbelt

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why would he? he's not governor yet and doesnt have a staff to do all the number-crunching and policy/research work that Strickland has.

If that was a legitimate excuse - and it's not - then why would he even suggest eliminating Ohio's income tax?

And using your logic, it sounds like any non-incumbent's position/response to such questions should be, "I have no idea. I'll figure it out when I get in office"?

Finally, he does have the ability to do the research -- the party, legislators who are supportive, campaign staff, volunteers, interest groups - the list goes on. That's how political campaigns, particularly those for such a prominent office, operate. Or it's at least how they are supposed to.

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gramarye
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von wrote >>

rustbelt wrote >>
Whoever is governor in January 2011 is in for a big world of hurt when the next budget discussions begin. No party or individual has shown any leadership this past year dealing with fundamental budget problems. They just keep pushing the hardest decisions down the road & next year that will be impossible.
However, Strickland has cut income taxes 21% while in office.
Meanwhile, Kasich did not utter a peep about how he would balance Ohio's budget. Instead, he wants to decimate it by doing away with Ohio's income tax altogether, with no explanation whatsoever as to how he would replace that revenue.

why would he? he's not governor yet and doesnt have a staff to do all the number-crunching and policy/research work that Strickland has.

When you've got a $5 billion hole, you don't need a staff of number-crunchers and research wonks to figure out the basics. Some big things are going to need to get cut, or taxes are going to need to be raised. I presume Kasich has categorically ruled out the latter (which might even be reason enough for me to vote against him right there). Whether or not tax raises are on the table, however, if prayers for more bailout money from Washington are unanswered, some budgets are going to *have* to be cut. Kasich could be forthcoming with at least some departments that he sees as having room to give right now, even if the exact amounts would be determined later, when he has more number-crunchers at his disposal.

(Also, he's not exactly completely bereft of number-crunchers now.)

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Walker
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rustbelt wrote >>
why would he? he's not governor yet and doesnt have a staff to do all the number-crunching and policy/research work that Strickland has.
If that was a legitimate excuse - and it's not - then why would he even suggest eliminating Ohio's income tax?

From HERE:

According to legislative analysts, annual government losses as a result of an income-tax phase-out would begin at $814 million next year and grow to more than $12 billion by the end of a decade. The commission reviewed the proposal because it's been introduced as a bill in the Ohio House.

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adrock
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sounds like kasich lost 2 points in just a month.

but that was from a phone survey, so their only respondents are going to be from lonely old people who use their land line.

Posted 2 years ago #