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In light of these significant changes to the original grid...it's like i barely even recognize downtown anymore.
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Stop Rich Street Bridge
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groundrules
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dang, forgot my jokey font again.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Central City Recording
Clintonville
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These are not "new" bridges! They are replacements for connections that needed repaired. Both of the old bridges were literally crumbling. The plan was always to replace them, not just demolish them. Essentially all they did was move the east side of both new bridges down a block when they rebuilt. What's the big deal?
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Central City Recording wrote >>
These are not "new" bridges! They are replacements for connections that needed repaired. Both of the old bridges were literally crumbling. The plan was always to replace them, not just demolish them. Essentially all they did was move the east side of both new bridges down a block when they rebuilt. What's the big deal?Given the changes made in our downtown street grid, particularly Town Street, it no longer makes a whole lot of sense from a functional standpoint. It sounds like a more useful connection to downtown based upon CU posters would be somewhere north of the Broad Street bridge connecting to the Arena District as opposed to on top of the Main Street bridge - hardly a block away. But I understand that would have required some thought beyond the fact that the Town Street bridge has always been there.
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Walker wrote >>
lifeliberty wrote >>
I think the more connections we can make to Franklinton the closer we are to making Franklinton redeveloped.Agreed.
I think a bike/pedestrian bridge on the North side connecting the Arena District to Vet's & COSI could be highly beneficial in helping to make the areas feel more connected. Driving around to Broad to cross isn't a big deal, but it's an awfully long walk from North Bank to the other side of the river.Less than 10 minutes is hardly "an awfully long walk."
Posted 2 years ago # -
michaelcoyote
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Shrug.. I dono.. A Neal Ave. bridge would have made more sense, but it seems unlikely that we'll ever get that, especially with the (really nice) North Bank park built.
Posted 2 years ago # -
alove
Downtown
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Don't get your hopes up yet. A pedestrian bridge connecting North Bank and Genoa parks is in the back of people's minds and I would rather see another pedestrian bridge than a fourth automobile bridge. What a way to encourage urban living! Being able to comfortably walk/bike from Franklinton/COSI to the Arena District.... imagine that!
Posted 2 years ago # -
JimSweeney
E. Fton
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here we go!
Posted 2 years ago # -
Rockmastermike
CORNspiracy HQ
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edit: nm.. brainfart
Posted 2 years ago # -
CDS sherman
East Franklinton
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JimSweeney wrote >>
here we go!haha we get another new bridge..... gee god forbid anyone spend any money trying to reconnect f ton to the rest of the city. the main and the old town st bridges were vital to am and pm commuters who work in downtown. and still is today, even after the changes to town st in 1987..... no traffic problems ehhh? i have seen horrific traffic jams during festivals, events at vets and cosi,the weather, suicide attempts, etc, etc... guess what happens when the bridge closes. its a cluster fuck. go ahead, spend some money over here on the west side. i think we deserve it.
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CDS sherman
East Franklinton
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alove wrote >>
Don't get your hopes up yet. A pedestrian bridge connecting North Bank and Genoa parks is in the back of people's minds and I would rather see another pedestrian bridge than a fourth automobile bridge. What a way to encourage urban living! Being able to comfortably walk/bike from Franklinton/COSI to the Arena District.... imagine that!i love the idea dont get me wrong, but its not that uncomfortable to ride over the river from f ton. broad st bridge to the Santa Maria path or the ped bridge over by confluence park. all directly dump you out at neil.
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CDS sherman
East Franklinton
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ja wrote
They are not maintaining the grid, but rather changing it by connecting the bridge from Town Street on the west side of the river to Rich Street on the east side of the street - thus positioning the bridge within a few hundred feet of the Main Street bridge. This is because they have changed the original grid years ago by cutting off Town Street (former city center and proposed Columbus Commons) to the river and most recently by the cobblestone section of Town Street adjacent to the former Lazarus building. In light of these significant changes to the original grid, it makes no sense to build the Rich Street bridgerich st is a 4 lane one way heading west through downtown. pm traffic needs this artery as it used to be town st, main st leads to rich which is a one way east into downtown. no entry to 315 from broad st.
north and south entry to 315 from town st and well 315 will take you all kinds of places. 315 south will take you to 70 west 71 south, 70 east if you dont mind a ticket... 315 north takes you to 670 east then to 71 north, 70 east, 670 east, and 315 north. makes alot of sense to me. obviously they have abandoned town st running through downtown. rich st makes the most sense as it's direction is west, and main st is east currently.Posted 2 years ago # -
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CDS sherman wrote >>
ja wrote
They are not maintaining the grid, but rather changing it by connecting the bridge from Town Street on the west side of the river to Rich Street on the east side of the street - thus positioning the bridge within a few hundred feet of the Main Street bridge. This is because they have changed the original grid years ago by cutting off Town Street (former city center and proposed Columbus Commons) to the river and most recently by the cobblestone section of Town Street adjacent to the former Lazarus building. In light of these significant changes to the original grid, it makes no sense to build the Rich Street bridgerich st is a 4 lane one way heading west through downtown. pm traffic needs this artery as it used to be town st, main st leads to rich which is a one way east into downtown. no entry to 315 from broad st.
north and south entry to 315 from town st and well 315 will take you all kinds of places. 315 south will take you to 70 west 71 south, 70 east if you dont mind a ticket... 315 north takes you to 670 east then to 71 north, 70 east, 670 east, and 315 north. makes alot of sense to me.Obviously, you are unaware of the proposed plans to make Main Street a two-way street, along with the Main Street Bridge which will also become two ways leading into Franklinton and then connecting into Town Street.
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CDS sherman
East Franklinton
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do those plans include rich st being 2 way in franklinton? cause if its not then downtown still needs more than 1 lane of west bound traffic going across the river other than broad. which is obviously why they are building the 3rd bridge.
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ja
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CDS sherman wrote >>
do those plans include rich st being 2 way in franklinton? cause if its not then downtown still needs more than 1 lane of west bound traffic going across the river other than broad.Most cities are smart enough to vary the lanes during rush hour traffic; that is, making at least two lanes eastbound into downtown for morning rush hour traffic and then two lanes westbound out of downtown for rush hour traffic after work.
ETA I also believe that Rich Street has been partially converted to two way traffic with the change of Front Street from one way to two way between Broad and Rich Streets.
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CDS sherman
East Franklinton
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rich st between high and front is still one way west.
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CDS sherman
East Franklinton
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can you post a link to an overlay or something that shows main becoming 2 way and where.
Posted 2 years ago # -
ja
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CDS sherman wrote >>
can you post a link to an overlay or something that shows main becoming 2 way and where.This is part of the 70/71 Mound/Fulton southern alternative to make Main Street two-ways, including the new Main Street bridge which was originally designed to be one-way only.
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