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@Walker - It is not fair to take what I say on Twitter and respond to it here.
I wasn't responding to it... just letting you know that it colored my perception (and possibly other's perceptions as well) of what you posted here.
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SNBA Policy on Food Carts During Gallery Hop
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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I believe most events require the food vendor to carry their own liability insurance (which any Columbus food vendor would already have) and sign a fairly standard 'waiver of liability/hold harmless' agreement.Which could explain the concern of the SNBA if a vendor is participating in their event (Gallery Hop) without liability insurance or signing any sort of waiver or agreements of any kind.
Tigertree wrote >>
The issue, as stated by the SNBA, is that Gallery Hop is meant to be an art event and they only allow street vendors with an art focus. They do not feel that food carts fit within this description so there is blanket policy accord to that feeling.If that is the reason that policy is in place, then I agree that is something that needs to be addressed and updated.
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Wondering aloud,
I wonder to what extent the SNBA has control over the Short North. Gallery Hop does encompass a much greater public area than other events. I wonder if an organization sponsored a marathon, would it have control of vendors on public property along the 26 mile route?
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Tigertree
771 N. High St.
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The SNBA holds a special permit over the sidewalks of the Short North one night a month. Theoretically, I guess if a marathon were granted the same permit they would have the same restrictions but it seems impossible to police.
I was speaking with one of the members of the gallery hop board about this and I will admit some valid points were raised but nothing that couldn't be figured out if they realized the value food carts could bring to the event. Most notably they raised the problem of traffic flow being impeded by crowds around the food carts. They even mentioned that the wide sidewalks on my block worked fine but further down on my block it could block the whole sidewalk. You could easily impose a rule that had a minimum sidewalk width AND a retail sponsor just like any other permit issued.
The real problem I have is the art definition. I think without even splitting hairs about what is and isn't art, food carts bring a tremendous value to the Short North for gallery hop. We are supposed to be the creative hub of the city and we are outright rejecting an important creative movement.Posted 1 year ago # -
Andrew Hall
Dennison Place (The Circles)
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Tigertree wrote The real problem I have is the art definition. I think without even splitting hairs about what is and isn't art, food carts bring a tremendous value to the Short North for gallery hop. We are supposed to be the creative hub of the city and we are outright rejecting an important creative movement.
Exactly!!!!
Defining art is archaic and a dead-end.* Embracing a larger creative community - not just for Gallery Hop, but 24/7/365 - is really what is needed.
People do not look for narrowly defined niches like "gallery" anymore. They look for the opportunity to experience something and that is what they pay money for. If someone who is not an habitué comes to the SN for gallery hop, they should have opportunities to experience something they don't on a regular basis. Food carts are a very current example.
The number of true galleries left makes the "gallery hop" a bit of a misnomer. There are less than 10 galleries who have monthly, changing, curated exhibits. I am not saying this as a 'good ole days' lament, but as a recognition that the environment has changed and the mindset needs to change with it.
A.
* As an editorial aside, some of the art I saw last night was a total and uncreative throwback to the days when people argued about what is art. Wow.
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JonMyers
HCMC ✈
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The biggest issue I see with food carts on the sidewalk during Gallery Hop isn't are they art or not, it's the logistics. They do block the flow of foot traffic, especially when lines form, and the sidewalks can't currently support it.
With or without the food carts, it's tough to walk with the pedestrian challenged who get the deer in the headlights freeze when confronted with crowded sidewalks.
If the SNBA is to stay relevant with regards to other things happening in the Columbus "arts community", they need to further scale and program the event.
That means closing High Street during Gallery Hop. It needs to happen anyway.
The extra space could be used to accommodate a wider umbrella of vendors like food carts, they might be able to charge for those spaces (I'm assuming they're interested in revenue generating opportunities), and they could remain at the forefront of what is loosely defined as "art" and inspiration in Columbus.
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Tigertree
771 N. High St.
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@JonMyers, I think you would loose support of most of the businesses down here for that until a parking solution could be found. Like I said, I totally agree with the sidewalk argument where it is applicable, it just isn't applicable for the entire district. My half of the 700 block, Victorian Gateway, the Greystone (food)Courtyard... There are plently of options that would be perfectly suitable. There are also plenty of dead zones in the district that carts could be used to effectively bridge.
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Columbusite
Minneapolis
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Jesus, enough with everything having to be in the Short North. They don't want food stands at gallery hop? That's great! There are plenty of other business districts that would welcome a flood of food stands to set up shop for an event. Old North was mentioned and I'm sure Franklinton wouldn't mind additional ones for Urban Scrawl.
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Talcott
Clintonville
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lisathewaitress wrote >>
okay who's with me? old north columbus bar crawl (that's all we have - no galleries). once a month, with all the food carts lining the streets between dodridge and hudson. maybe all the way to Lane, and we can ask Alana to bring out her giant wok and make bananas foster on the street, and someone from Japanese oriental can do something on the street.
we want you, food carts!!
On that note, food carts, have any of you noticed that the owner of the parking lot outside of the Goodwill at dodridge/high is actively pursuing you? he has a huge sign on High that he's renting outlots. *nudge nudge*I like this plan. I like this plan a lot.
And it would be yet another push for me to move a mile south of where I am now. I've always like the North Campus/Old North Columbus area, and it seems like more and more neat things keep happening there. While there isn't a gallery on that strip yet, I could see some of the shops along there having gallery space or, in the warmer months, outdoor art becoming part of the event.I'd also love a semi-perminant taco truck in that parking lot, not to mention a bunch of other food carts. I've never seen that lot anywhere close to full, and I could see a street-facing food truck court as a great bridge between North Columbus and Clintonville.
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shirtandpants
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Sorry, but am I the only person who thinks it's ridiculous that a private organization has taken over what used to be a public community art event? That the SNBA is given full control over a public street for a public event, and even has the authority to kick out artists and other vendors from a community art event is kind of out of control.
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Andrew Hall
Dennison Place (The Circles)
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It is not an either/or proposition and I don't understand why people want to make it that way. Those are all great ideas and would work even better in conjunction with a stronger Gallery Hop. The point of criticizing is not to bash or tear-down which appears to be the aim of some. The point is take the brand of the Short North and Gallery Hop - which has significant cachet and value - and keep it growing. Doing so benefits all.
Stop seeing zero sum games and look for win-win.
A.
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Logistically, I don't think it would be drastically different from the current vendor policy. If they allot certain areas for this activity I doubt the limited cons would outwiegh the benefits. It is interesting that the rules were just amended. I think the SNBA may be a bit out of touch. The SNBA is 'event' driven yet it seems to be afraid to see that evolve.
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Harrison West
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It was explained to me that food cart vendors were not being setup during Gallery Hop to not compete or deter people from the SN area restaurants and eateries. That explanation was given to me prior to this weekend's happening.
Walker-did you hear back from anyone with the SNBA about this matter? Just curious if they were directed to this post and given the chance to respond and answer questions directly though I am not sure which staff person controls the SNBA account on CU.
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Harrison West
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Tigertree wrote >>
I inquired about that, as I had always heard that was the case as well. They said that it had nothing to do with the restaurants that it was all about only allowing art vendors.Well I am on the GH board as well and this was verbalized to me at one of the meetings.
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