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YouTubeIf you buy into all the "expert" sound bites on ESPN and sports radio, Tressel's actions are pretty agregious and he should either be fired or resign. They cite there have been 13 similar examples of lying by a coach in college sports and 12 of these coaches have been terminated/resigned - the latest Tenn's Bruce Pearl. What do you think should happen? or do you think this is all hyperbole and any action (or reaction) would be premature?
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Greenswell
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Posted 1 year ago # -
Mister Shifter
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Pat Forde wrote a spot-on article on this yesterday.
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MichaelC
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Jim Tressel isn't going anywhere. Friday's letter from the NCAA to OSU made it clear that there is no allegation of a "lack of institutional control" nor of a "failure to monitor." What the NCAA released Friday--and what became public yesterday--was essentially a carbon copy of that which OSU had already self-reported.
OSU might have to "lose" its games from this past season--except for the bowl game--but that is all that is likely to happen unless new information comes to light.
When Tressel starts shelling out hundreds of thousands of dollars for recruits or current players, then he'll be gone. That only happens in the SEC, however, which is strangely clear of NCAA investigations.
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Andrew Hall
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MichaelC wrote . That only happens in the SEC, however, which is strangely clear of NCAA investigations.
Clear except for LSU, Georgia, Tenn, Auburn, Alabama, Florida ... (and I didn't even Google to see if anyone else had been hit with penalties or investigations in the last two years.)
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Tenzo
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Interesting take on the whole situation
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-sees-serious-sins-for-Tressel-34234219Posted 1 year ago # -
JoeMitchell
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No
tressel should flip the bird and tell the ncaa they know where to find him
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Posted 1 year ago # -
groundrules
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i guess rules are rules, but these incidents don't make me see OSU as a dirty program. None of the sins seem all that egregious to me, compared to programs that violate rules with a clear intent to gain an on-field advantage (recruiting, etc.) This isn't a case of systematic, top-down advantage seeking. So kids behaved badly (hardly news among college students, let alone athletes) and Tress handled that badly. I continue to think these are not capital offenses.
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MichaelC
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Andrew Hall wrote >>
MichaelC wrote . That only happens in the SEC, however, which is strangely clear of NCAA investigations.
Clear except for LSU, Georgia, Tenn, Auburn, Alabama, Florida ... (and I didn't even Google to see if anyone else had been hit with penalties or investigations in the last two years.)
A.I'm familiar with issues Georgia had and resolved re: one of its receivers, and of the now-closed case Auburn had with its quarterback having been sold to the university for hundreds of thousands of dollars by the QB's father; what are the others?
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DLDude
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Though the things the players did I personally do not think should be illegal, Tressel knew they were. He knew they happened. He purposefully did not say anything when he was repeatedly given the opportunity to do so. Though the allegations against the players may be thin and questionable, Tressel covered it up. Makes you wonder what else he has covered up. He needs to go.
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Andrew Hall
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groundrules wrote >>
i guess rules are rules, but these incidents don't make me see OSU as a dirty program. None of the sins seem all that egregious to me, compared to programs that violate rules with a clear intent to gain an on-field advantage (recruiting, etc.) This isn't a case of systematic, top-down advantage seeking. So kids behaved badly (hardly news among college students, let alone athletes) and Tress handled that badly. I continue to think these are not capital offenses.Lying to maintain eligibility for your star players is not "to gain an on-field advantage?"
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Andrew Hall
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MichaelC wrote >>
Andrew Hall wrote >>
MichaelC wrote . That only happens in the SEC, however, which is strangely clear of NCAA investigations.
Clear except for LSU, Georgia, Tenn, Auburn, Alabama, Florida ... (and I didn't even Google to see if anyone else had been hit with penalties or investigations in the last two years.)
A.I'm familiar with issues Georgia had and resolved re: one of its receivers, and of the now-closed case Auburn had with its quarterback having been sold to the university for hundreds of thousands of dollars by the QB's father; what are the others?
Google is your friend. All those schools have had some type of investigation and/or violation resulting in penalties like loss of visits/etc. Free basketball tickets to (iirc) Pouncey supposedly getting 100K$. It is just inaccurate to pretend that the SEC doesn't get investigated.
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Mister Shifter
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Exactly Andrew. These people who keep trying to rationalize that Tressel's heart was in the right place, or his intentions weren't malicious need a dose of reality. What if Les Miles or Nick Saban did the things that Tressel did, would you feel the same way? Quit being blind supporters and OSU fanatics for one minute.
Jim Tressel has a history of lying and covering things up, no matter how conservative or christian he may appear with his sharp vest & attire. He covered up for his star quarterback at Youngstown State when he was getting money from a booster, and he repeatedly lied to and deceived the NCAA regarding this matter.
The notion that the things he did weren't to gain an on-field advantage is laughable. He knew the ramifications if DeVeir Posey, Terrelle Pryor, Dan Herron and others stitting on the bench most of the season, and he chose to lie in an attempt to win games.
Simple things really. And he'll pay for it.
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groundrules
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Andrew Hall wrote >>
groundrules wrote >>
i guess rules are rules, but these incidents don't make me see OSU as a dirty program. None of the sins seem all that egregious to me, compared to programs that violate rules with a clear intent to gain an on-field advantage (recruiting, etc.) This isn't a case of systematic, top-down advantage seeking. So kids behaved badly (hardly news among college students, let alone athletes) and Tress handled that badly. I continue to think these are not capital offenses.Lying to maintain eligibility for your star players is not "to gain an on-field advantage?"
A.like I said, rules are rules. but from a moral perspective, covering up a mistake (and tatoos = no on field advantage) seems different to me than initiating a illegal activity for the sake of advantage. I know some people messed up, and there will be some version of hell to pay, but I don't think it makes OSU a dirty program. Especially compared to instances where officials are clearly instigating and condoning illegal stuff.
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