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Started 1 year ago by cyclist II
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KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast

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Nice to see folks telling the truth. This is not the right kind of economy we should promote. These gangstas represent a culture of death and violence. All bad, bad, bad. We need to confront and call it out and tell it like it is... This is an economy based on extortion, killing, death, fear, intimidation and violence. Urban neighborhood stakeholders need to confront and root it out. This is good news for Weinland Park. The neighborhood associations need to target the carryouts next and all the crappy landlords that are more interested in collecting rents than what is good for the neighborhood.

Call Columbus Code and the CPD 645.4545, and report junked vehicles on the street and in the alleys and parked in yards to 311.columbus.gov

When this element knows there are eyes watching (people who care and won't tolerate this BS and aren't afraid) and observing they do 3 things: run, move out and hide....

I agree "silence" is the not the answer - these black gangs in the inner city in Columbus need to be challenged and they will cave - the worse thing is doing nothing and embracing the status quo... I don't live in appalachia, but would do the same thing with the crystal meth dealers they are in the same league BAD NEWS... When you are in a block watch you learn to describe the perpetrators. Unfortunately, you can't say young person 25 years old with brown hair and 200lbs - doesn't work!

The truth will set you free and chasing ghosts is frutile - you get tired of all pc lingua franca...it feels good but the impact of this chit chat is totally ineffective at solving and addressing real problems IMHO. You have to have the courage to describe and articulate the problem and drivers before you can have the humility and understanding to address it...

Posted 1 year ago #
Core_Models
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Really, I'd just call the cops when I see black people. Everyone else does.

BTW, David Duke called, he also thinks you're courageous.

Posted 1 year ago #
J.R. Locke
Weinland Park
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berdawn wrote >>

Porky wrote >>

J.R. Locke wrote >>
It is simply capitalism. Why not let them have their lemonade stand? The violence is only increased by the idiot politicians and people far away from the situation who declare a new war on drugs. That is a war on their economy.

+1 Well said.

because they are engaging in an illegal activity, additional illegal activities occur. the next time I'm at Easton, I'll look for the graffiti to tell me where Macy's territory ends; maybe I'll pick up the stray bullet casings that were left when the Harry & David crew decided to shoot a few rounds.

Illegal activity is a loose concept to invoke a "war" on. For instance where does Macy's make its clothes? How does it get from there to there or here? Who delivers these items. Do they follow all the laws? Do they have a moral compass to the people effected by their business?

My guess is there are many laws broken, lives left in shambles and some comparatively wealthy people whom have no problem collecting the money while orchestrating the whole thing.

Macy's does sell jewelry of some sort correct? That business is nastier than a meth lab in a valley.

Again this is simply capitalism. There is a demand for these items, this need will get fulfilled. Value is in the belief of the consumer.

The question is how do you prevent innocent people from being victimized by this? My guess is you don't make the organization less stable and increase the do or die stakes worldview they have.

Posted 1 year ago #
ChrisSunami
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I have a neighbor a few doors down in the KLD. His wife privately told me he is a huge racist. I don't understand why he moved into this neighborhood in the first place. It's not like there aren't low income neighborhoods with all white people in them.

On a related note, KingLinclonUrbanEnthusiast, whether or not you've noticed, your repeated emphasis on "black gangs" has convinced many people posting in this thread --including several posters not noted for PC tendencies --that you're a flaming racist. If that isn't true, this might be a good time to try to rehabilitate your image.

Otherwise you come across as a "KLUE"-less gentrifier who thinks his neighborhood would be great if only all those black people could be gotten rid of.

Posted 1 year ago #
J.R. Locke
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ChrisSunami wrote >>
Otherwise you come across as a "KLUE"-less gentrifier who thinks his neighborhood would be great if only all those black people could be gotten rid of.

A true clueless gentrifier only wants a certain type of black person. I think that is what he is after anyways, looking at the emphasis of his posts.

Posted 1 year ago #
hugh59
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I am doing my part to help on this issue. My wife and I have been active with an organization BREAD (Bringing Responsibility Equity And Dignity) this year. This is a federation of over 50 congregations (churchs, synogogues, and mosques) working together to identify community problems and take action.

This year, we are working on crime and violence and we had our first research meeting with Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien. I took time off work to participate in this meeting. At the end of the research phase, the organization will pick a solution to work for this year and we will work towards putting it into effect.

O'Brien pointed us to a program that Boston MA used to reduce the murder rate to 0 for an 18 month period. This program involved providing a wide variety of youth oriented activities to keep youths from joining gangs.

I don't know what the program will choose as its proposed solution, but at least I am not sitting back and doing nothing.

Posted 1 year ago #
SusanB
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KLUE - trash knows no color, as we like to say on the South Side. Your posts do come off racist, you might want to work on that. I know that after years of living in a "transitional" neighborhood you get jumpy about certain folks that fit the demo of the troublemakers in the area. I myself have to work on not flinching when I interact with young, white males with the "Appalachian South Side" drawl and I try mightily not to hate all young white kids. Please calm down and leave the racial descriptors out of your posts, they are completely unnecessary.

Posted 1 year ago #
KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast

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Point of fact - I love black people and all people. Each person is unique and needs to be treasured for who they are as a person and not race, religion, etc. But some folks who behave bad (kill, steal, etc) are bad and I would prefer to live with good folks not bad folks who care of any race. I don't like Black gangs, Chinese gangs, Latino gangs, Italian gangs, Irish gangs, Somali gangs, white trash gangs or Jewish gangs period and don't like all the BS that comes with it. Every neighborhood has a different challenge and dominant or majority group, bottom line is a culture of tolerance ain't going to make it better. We need more people respecting each other as people, their property, their environment etc. What makes me angry is that most of these gang members (not all I sure but most) crap all over where they live have no respect for the community, bystanders, the elderly, yada, yada, yada. People are typically either givers, makers and takers and unfortunately most of these gangs regardless of ethnicity are takers and parasites once they have taken everything in a community their move to the next and the process continues (they have scorched earth effect), etc...all gangs when they take over create a culture of apathy, despair and hopelessness and POF ruin a neighborhood and trump all the good stuff people are working on, which is why they need to be vigorously defeated before they develop roots and become part of the status quo. Read about the psychology of the broken windows paradigm in a neighborhood on the residents - same impact that gangs have on a street and the people living there

Hope this clears up my position...did not mean to offend

Posted 1 year ago #
Cookie
Flyntonville
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KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast wrote >>
Point of fact - I love black people and all people.

Some of my best friends are people.

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KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast

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As a person of color, I grew up with gangs as a child, so I have first hand knowledge, also saw pit bulls being raised to fight, animals whipped and small dogs stolen to later be used as pit bull bait so have had some very vivid memories and experience (although I don't pretend to be an expert) - "People" sure do love to read into every word...next time will use the word "persons" more PC - petty IMHO LOL

Posted 1 year ago #
Porky
C-Bus' East Side
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Cookie wrote >>

KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast wrote >>
Point of fact - I love black people and all people.

Some of my best friends are people.

Leave it up to Cookie :-)

Posted 1 year ago #
misskitty
Columbus
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Interesting this is not the Old skool SNP. When I first saw the headline I thought that was what they were talking about.
But Why should these Ã¢â‚¬Å“humansÃ¢â‚¬Â get any respect when they themselves donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know how to treat others as people or humans with respect. Their job is selling death to people they are not people to me they are pieces of shit. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a tough culture but you can never fully understand the shit of it until you have a crack head sell their kids school computer for a 20 rock or try to sell an open pack of toilet paper for five. I am fully comfortable saying that because I have enough balls to call my previous self a piece of shit.
Will it ever change? I hope so But until people stop dropping kids they have no intentions of raising right then I doubt it.

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Two convicted of ‘Short North Posse’ gang activity
By John Futty
The Columbus Dispatch
Thursday November 10, 2011 11:43 PM

Two men were convicted of being members of the Short North Posse and participating in the gang’s criminal activities today, but a third defendant was acquitted of the same charges by a Franklin County Common Pleas jury.

Jurors found them guilty of one count of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity and one count of participating in a criminal gang.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/11/10/two-convicted-of-gang-activity.html

Posted 6 months ago #
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Judge sends two Short North Posse members to prison
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2011 04:03 AM
By John Futty
The Columbus Dispatch
Wednesday November 23, 2011 11:39 AM

Two men who were convicted of being members of the Short North Posse have been sentenced by a Franklin County Common Pleas judge. Cornelius Allen, 31, was sentenced today to four years in prison for participating in a criminal gang and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/11/23/two-gang-members-sentenced.html

Posted 6 months ago #
cheap
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4 years is a vacation.he'll be right back.

Posted 6 months ago #
Static-X
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It's a shame that we can't form a 'posse' and round up these punks ourselves. How are these pieces of shit any different from the terrorist over in the middle east? Maybe we need our military to clean up our own streets. People can't even go out in their own neighborhoods without being in fear of their lives. Like I said in a past post, we need to turn into Paul Kersey's and take care of it ourselves.

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cheap
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Static-X said:
It's a shame that we can't form a 'posse' and round up these punks ourselves. How are these pieces of shit any different from the terrorist over in the middle east? Maybe we need our military to clean up our own streets. People can't even go out in their own neighborhoods without being in fear of their lives. Like I said in a past post, we need to turn into Paul Kersey's and take care of it ourselves.

funny stuff.

Posted 6 months ago #
OSUPhantom
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hugh59 said:
I am doing my part to help on this issue. My wife and I have been active with an organization BREAD (Bringing Responsibility Equity And Dignity) this year. This is a federation of over 50 congregations (churchs, synogogues, and mosques) working together to identify community problems and take action.

This year, we are working on crime and violence and we had our first research meeting with Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien. I took time off work to participate in this meeting. At the end of the research phase, the organization will pick a solution to work for this year and we will work towards putting it into effect.

O'Brien pointed us to a program that Boston MA used to reduce the murder rate to 0 for an 18 month period. This program involved providing a wide variety of youth oriented activities to keep youths from joining gangs.

I don't know what the program will choose as its proposed solution, but at least I am not sitting back and doing nothing.

My church is involved with BREAD. I plan to get more involved with it this upcoming year.

Posted 6 months ago #