JimL2 wrote >>
@Walker: I'm reading the books now, and there seems to be quite a bit more character development in terms of "becoming an adult/dealing with the transition to adulthood." He gets a job, moves out of that terrible apartment, etc.
Yeah, I figured the books are much more indepth. I should probably pick them up. Or just steal yours when you're done.
kelseyg wrote >>
I liked it a lot. But it's a coming-of-age movie aimed at early 20-somethings... I don't think it's really fair to have a beef with that aspect of a movie, because it's a feature and not a bug. 30-year-olds watching the breakfast club right when it came out probably felt a little old, too. It's the nature of the movie and its demographic.
Sure, and I get that. Which is why I tried to preface that part of my initial reaction to the movie saying that it wasn't really a big deal and I actually liked the movie quite a lot. Just something that stood out to me in a noticeable way. Which probably says more about me than it does about the film. ;)
kelseyg wrote >>
I've read the NY Times articles about millenials too and they're felt really unfair to me.
Yeah, any generational definitions are never going to be 100% accurate. This is coming from someone born in 1980 which seems to be the year sandwiched in between GenX and The Millenials, so I personally feel like neither classification accurately describes me or most 30 year olds that I know.
Anyway, I agree with you that the economy and tougher job market probably has a lot to do with the delayed entry into the job market and the ripple effect that has on a generation. It sounds like a pretty good explanation for why the Millenial generation has been classified as somewhat of a "late bloomer" generation.
Talcott wrote >>
Most of the trends referenced could just as easily apply to the generation that came before, and will be applied to the generation that comes after. The specifics might change, but I remember when Gen X was the slacker generation that would never move out of their parents' place and was supposed to be a reaction against the Baby Boom.
While it's true that Gen X & The Millenials may have some of those traits in common, I was under the impression (from my very casual reading and research) that Gen X's slackerism was shaped by more of a rebellious movement following their parents' generation while The Millenials arrested development (just wanted another groan or maybe a COME ON) is more of a lack of opportunity or the result of more relaxed parenting? I think the results may be similar, but the causes and the reasons differ.
Talcott wrote >> Anyway, the main theme and plot of the books (and, to a lesser extent, the movie) is Scott and Ramona coming to terms with their past and becoming adults. They both messed up in relationships (in fairly normal ways) and are carrying the scars from that.
I'll have to read the books then and go deeper. As someone who came to the movie with fresh eyes, I wasn't exposed to their past anymore than the movie provided and I was left feeling like their "scars" and emotional baggage essentially amounted to a bunch of "he broke up with her" and "she broke up with him" and "she dated a guy in 7th grade but they only kissed once and he's still upset about that at age 23" and yadda yadda yadda. Their past relationships felt somewhat trivial to me. But again... I came for the fight scenes and comedy and was completely satisfied leaving the theater.
Mercury wrote >>
One of the things I found interesting about the movie is that it doesn't seem to exist in any specific period of time other than the turn of this century or just before.
Hrm... I didn't really think much of that, but it's a good point. Just to again reference the same movie I did earlier... it was one of the things I found interesting about Napoleon Dynamite. It felt like some strange timewarp mix of 70s-80s-90s and maybe early 2000s between the character clothing, home decor, slang and pop culture references. I'm not sure if they had anything to identify a specific time period that film was supposed to take place.
Talcott wrote >>
Then again, the Coke Zero references (which I did find a bit much, even if self-aware) would be anachronistic for 2002.
After leaving the theater I developed a slight headache. I blamed it on my body craving a delicious Coke Zero. :D
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