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Just curious how ads end up on CU? Personally, I was a bit disappointed to see an ad for Salvation Army - an organization that opposes same sex marriage, a woman's right to choose, and thinks if you're gay you should be celibate. Perhaps I'm injecting politics into CU but, hey, why not?
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JedThorp wrote >>
Just curious how ads end up on CU? Personally, I was a bit disappointed to see an ad for Salvation Army - an organization that opposes same sex marriage, a woman's right to choose, and thinks if you're gay you should be celibate. Perhaps I'm injecting politics into CU but, hey, why not?betcha walker would be happy to accept your political contribution to help cover bandwidth.
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sugarplumclarey
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I suspect that like many businesses, CU sells advertising space in order to provide the great services that it provides to the community.
Personally, I will NOT support the Salvation Army and will not donate to their Christmas kettles. Their website states: Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex. The Salvation Army believes, therefore, that Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life. There is no scriptural support for same-sex unions as equal to, or as an alternative to, heterosexual marriage.
There are much more worthy causes, in my opinion. If I want to support the needy, I can do so by donating to outreach initiatives that don't discriminate. Again, just my opinion and no offense intended to anyone who does support the SA.
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sugarplumclarey
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In the interest of fairness, the website also states:
Sexual attraction to the same sex is a matter of profound complexity. Whatever the causes may be, attempts to deny its reality or to marginalize those of a same-sex orientation have not been helpful. The Salvation Army does not consider same-sex orientation blameworthy in itself. Homosexual conduct, like heterosexual conduct, requires individual responsibility and must be guided by the light of scriptural teaching.
Obviously, they present themselves as supportive of all people, regardless of politics, However, in practice, they discriminate. As mentioned in another thread, requiring one household member to be in the US legally before a child can receive aid? It makes me furious. Go spend the night in a Tijuana trash dump and then tell me that those people don't deserve help.
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greenhouse1014
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Yeah, to hell with all the people the SA actually helps, homeless, kids, rehab for alcoholics. Politics aside, they do a lot of good. It's not like they're actively spouting their political views and trying to get people to agree. That said, I'm not all that mad about services being withheld for illegals. With the high number of actual citizens of the country needing help, I feel like there has to be a line somewhere.
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Neil Jaye
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I can not say I am a supporter of the SA’s politics, but kudos to CU for running the ads. I would think they’d sell ad space to parties with views completely contrary. I do not believe CU, or any media outlet for that matter, should refuse ad space purely on the basis of their politics (I would imagine hardcore extremist like the Klan, etc would be different) only.
I hope Walker continues to advertise (while not necessarily supporting) all types of organizations and in turn I hope the dialogue and opinions continue to flow in the threads. Besides, it just business.
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I must be living under a rock, but I didn't know this about the Salvation Army. I guess when you think about the name you realize they have a religous as opposed to purely philanthropic agenda.
I don't think anyone can complain about who Walker chooses to take ads from. That is not fair to him or the CU. Probably should change the title to an FYI about Salvation Army's practices.
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Rockmastermike
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I was wondering how long it would take before someone complained about it.
It's walker's site, he can put what he wants up here. *shrug*
There are plenty of other good groups who need help. If you don't want to give to SA (I sure don't), then make a donation to one you DO support and stick with it. Vote with your cash.
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JonMyers
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Most publishers will take most ads unless the creative or organization goes against policy.
Regardless of their politics I'd be disappointed if Walker turned down an ad for the Salvation Army. Likewise, as much as I can stand this cheeseball casino idea I'd be disappointed if he turned down an ad for it. That said, if an organization like the KKK had ads on CU I wouldn't come back here.
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misskitty
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As long as they are not calling for the execution or death of someone for the way they live than it’s not an issue for me. They do good things for people in need that’s what matters.
If I banished all my connections or friends that didn’t have my same ideas I would be one sad alone person.Posted 2 years ago # -
Walker
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JedThorp wrote >>
Just curious how ads end up on CU?CU is a full time business, and advertising revenue is the bulk of what funds our day-to-day operations.
I know that some have an objection to certain aspects of The Salvation Army, but many people also support the fine work that they do. I guess if you're opposed to the organization, don't click on their ad, and don't donate. If you're not a fan of any other local business or organization with an ad on here, I'd suggest the same thing.
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Walker
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Fun Fact: I've only ever had to turn down one advertisement. An event promoter wanted to advertise a Vivid Video promotional event at a local nightclub. The ad that was sent to me contained no nudity, but did have some scantily clad ladies and was rather suggestive. I figured that if I had to draw the line on something, that was the time to do it. ;)
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sugarplumclarey
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greenhouse1014 wrote >>
Yeah, to hell with all the people the SA actually helps, homeless, kids, rehab for alcoholics. Politics aside, they do a lot of good. It's not like they're actively spouting their political views and trying to get people to agree. That said, I'm not all that mad about services being withheld for illegals. With the high number of actual citizens of the country needing help, I feel like there has to be a line somewhere.IMO doing "a lot of good" doesn't excuse bigotry. It just doesn't. I'm not saying that the ad should be removed, but people need to be aware of what they are donating to when they drop $ in the SA kettles. Don't cut off or judge people who do support the Salvation Army, but if these issues are important to you why not take some time to contact them and explain your reason for withholding donations, then find an organization who supports what you believe in and donate to them.
Better yet, collect a donation to advertise for one of those causes on CU :)
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Brant
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sugarplumclarey wrote >>
I suspect that like many businesses, CU sells advertising space in order to provide the great services that it provides to the community.
Personally, I will NOT support the Salvation Army and will not donate to their Christmas kettles. Their website states: Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex. The Salvation Army believes, therefore, that Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life. There is no scriptural support for same-sex unions as equal to, or as an alternative to, heterosexual marriage.
There are much more worthy causes, in my opinion. If I want to support the needy, I can do so by donating to outreach initiatives that don't discriminate. Again, just my opinion and no offense intended to anyone who does support the SA.I appreciate that the SA makes it clear that "Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy..." So if you're not a Christian, don't sweat it.
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joev
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sugarplumclarey wrote >>
greenhouse1014 wrote >>
Yeah, to hell with all the people the SA actually helps, homeless, kids, rehab for alcoholics. Politics aside, they do a lot of good. It's not like they're actively spouting their political views and trying to get people to agree. That said, I'm not all that mad about services being withheld for illegals. With the high number of actual citizens of the country needing help, I feel like there has to be a line somewhere.IMO doing "a lot of good" doesn't excuse bigotry. It just doesn't. I'm not saying that the ad should be removed, but people need to be aware of what they are donating to when they drop $ in the SA kettles. Don't cut off or judge people who do support the Salvation Army, but if these issues are important to you why not take some time to contact them and explain your reason for withholding donations, then find an organization who supports what you believe in and donate to them.
Better yet, collect a donation to advertise for one of those causes on CU :)If it were me, I'd use my spleen to rail against organizations that were doing bad things to people before I bothered getting angry with organizations doing good things for people that don't align with my own values. But that's just me. I have no idea how a person could fault a religious charity for upholding the tenets of the religion it seeks to emulate in the world.
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sugarplumclarey
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Brant Jones wrote >>
sugarplumclarey wrote >>
I suspect that like many businesses, CU sells advertising space in order to provide the great services that it provides to the community.
Personally, I will NOT support the Salvation Army and will not donate to their Christmas kettles. Their website states: Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex. The Salvation Army believes, therefore, that Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life. There is no scriptural support for same-sex unions as equal to, or as an alternative to, heterosexual marriage.
There are much more worthy causes, in my opinion. If I want to support the needy, I can do so by donating to outreach initiatives that don't discriminate. Again, just my opinion and no offense intended to anyone who does support the SA.I appreciate that the SA makes it clear that "Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy..." So if you're not a Christian, don't sweat it.
I like to live and let live, but in this case there are real consequences to their politics. They refused funding from the City of San Francisco due to its progressive domestic partnership laws. That means that fewer services were provided to its clients in need because of their anti-gay sentiments.
I might seem radical and/or overreactive, esp. because the Salvation Army is a charity organization so they are entitled to believe and practice whatever they want within law. But I want to drive home the point that they are indeed spreading a message of intolerance, which I think has real, if immeasurable, consequences to society.
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joev
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sugarplumclarey wrote >> I like to live and let live, but in this case there are real consequences to their politics. They refused funding from the City of San Francisco due to its progressive domestic partnership laws. That means that fewer services were provided to its clients in need because of their anti-gay sentiments.
I might seem radical and/or overreactive, esp. because the Salvation Army is a charity organization so they are entitled to believe and practice whatever they want within law. But I want to drive home the point that they are indeed spreading a message of intolerance, which I think has real, if immeasurable, consequences to society.Is it possible that people with pro-sentiments might be prevalent enough in San Francisco that other charities with different values have filled in any shortfalls?
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Brant
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sugarplumclarey wrote >> I might seem radical and/or overreactive, esp. because the Salvation Army is a charity organization so they are entitled to believe and practice whatever they want within law. But I want to drive home the point that they are indeed spreading a message of intolerance, which I think has real, if immeasurable, consequences to society.
I can see that. Good point.
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