Revenge of the Electric Car at Drexel. CU Premiere Event on Friday, Nov 18 @ 6pm

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Started 6 months ago by Anne
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Anne
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Mention 'Columbus Underground' at the box office and receive a $2 OFF discount for 'Revenge of the Electric Car.' Showing at The Drexel. Premiere event is Friday, November 18 at 6pm.
"Director Chris Paine ("Who Killed the Electric Car") takes his film crew behind the closed doors of Nissan, GM, the Silicon Valley start-up Tesla Motors, and an independent car converter named Greg "Gadget" Abbott to find the story of the global resurgence of electric cars. Without using a single drop of foreign oil, this new generation of automobiles is America's future: fast, furious, and cleaner than ever."

http://www.drexel.net/

MORE INFO ON DISCOUNT:
$2.00 Off Discount to any performance of the film after 6:00 pm for the run-of-the-engagement. The film plays Friday, Nov. 18 through Thursday, November 24(Thanksgiving). Show times and more info at http://www.drexel.net.

Posted 6 months ago #
CooperGuy

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Thank you for posting this.

Posted 6 months ago #
columbusmike

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I really wish someone would do the calculation to see how many nuclear power plants we would need to power a national fleet of electric cars. I'm pretty sure the answer would be that the electric car is not our future.

However, I do believe electric cars will function more as a supplement to public transportation -- in the form of car sharing/rental.

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Okay, someone DID do a study...from http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/005067.html

In an analysis of the potential impacts of plug-in hybrid electric vehicles projected for 2020 and 2030 in 13 regions of the United States, ORNL researchers explored their potential effect on electricity demand, supply, infrastructure, prices and associated emission levels. Electricity requirements for hybrids used a projection of 25 percent market penetration of hybrid vehicles by 2020 including a mixture of sedans and sport utility vehicles. Several scenarios were run for each region for the years 2020 and 2030 and the times of 5 p.m. or 10:00 p.m., in addition to other variables.

The report found that the need for added generation would be most critical by 2030, when hybrids have been on the market for some time and become a larger percentage of the automobiles Americans drive. In the worst-case scenario—if all hybrid owners charged their vehicles at 5 p.m., at six kilowatts of power—up to 160 large power plants would be needed nationwide to supply the extra electricity, and the demand would reduce the reserve power margins for a particular region's system.

The best-case scenario occurs when vehicles are plugged in after 10 p.m., when the electric load on the system is at a minimum and the wholesale price for energy is least expensive. Depending on the power demand per household, charging vehicles after 10 p.m. would require, at lower demand levels, no additional power generation or, in higher-demand projections, just eight additional power plants nationwide.

This study assumed only 25% of the national fleet would be electric cars.

Posted 6 months ago #
Andrew Hall
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I hope I can come see this.

I saw a marquee listing 'Revenge of the Electric Car' in another city and I assumed it was the name of a band!

A.

Posted 6 months ago #
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Thx to ColumbusMike for finding a study about power plant needs. Assuming that study is accurate, I think it's reasonable that the the best case scenario would not happen. So, more power plants would need to be built. Clearly, Central Ohio is deep within a region that very heavily depends on individual-vehicle transport. So, more pollution (nuclear or coal) would need to be created to maintain our current style of driving. And if more than 25% of drivers choose electric vehicles, then even more pollution will occur. There is a way to avoid this, but it would require us to change our style of living - drive LESS (walk & bike more), drive in vehicles that hold more than one person (carpool or bus or train), live closer to the places we need to go. I think most Americans would choose more power plants rather than change life style, especially since the costs of pollution are not appreciated or recognized by most people - I hope I'm wrong about that.

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fyaeger said:
Thx to ColumbusMike for finding a study about power plant needs. Assuming that study is accurate, I think it's reasonable that the the best case scenario would not happen. So, more power plants would need to be built. Clearly, Central Ohio is deep within a region that very heavily depends on individual-vehicle transport. So, more pollution (nuclear or coal) would need to be created to maintain our current style of driving. And if more than 25% of drivers choose electric vehicles, then even more pollution will occur. There is a way to avoid this, but it would require us to change our style of living - drive LESS (walk & bike more), drive in vehicles that hold more than one person (carpool or bus or train), live closer to the places we need to go. I think most Americans would choose more power plants rather than change life style, especially since the costs of pollution are not appreciated or recognized by most people - I hope I'm wrong about that.

I'm guilty of living that life style. However, I'm totally willing to live in a world where we all walk more, drive less, and live closer together. I wish people would see the bigger picture; that electric cars are not going to be a replacement for your personal vehicle. They will most likely be for car sharing, taxi's, buses, and the very, very wealthy. However, seeing our economic conditions, I'm not sure how we're even going to maintain our road network with no gas tax revenue and scarce global financial resources.

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fyaeger said:
I think most Americans would choose more power plants rather than change life style, especially since the costs of pollution are not appreciated or recognized by most people - I hope I'm wrong about that.

I don't think you're wrong, although I don't think most people would advocate for more nuclear power plants.

Speaking generally, quality of life = lifestyle for most people.

Posted 6 months ago #
Twixlen
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fyaeger said:
Thx to ColumbusMike for finding a study about power plant needs. Assuming that study is accurate, I think it's reasonable that the the best case scenario would not happen. So, more power plants would need to be built. Clearly, Central Ohio is deep within a region that very heavily depends on individual-vehicle transport. So, more pollution (nuclear or coal) would need to be created to maintain our current style of driving. And if more than 25% of drivers choose electric vehicles, then even more pollution will occur. There is a way to avoid this, but it would require us to change our style of living - drive LESS (walk & bike more), drive in vehicles that hold more than one person (carpool or bus or train), live closer to the places we need to go. I think most Americans would choose more power plants rather than change life style, especially since the costs of pollution are not appreciated or recognized by most people - I hope I'm wrong about that.

The biggest issue I have with that study is its timing. March, 2008 - so they're looking at data that is likely a year older than that. Since 2008, electric usage has actually decreased - something that no one saw coming, much like the financial crisis. While industrial usage is coming back up, consumer-level usage isn't. People have gotten more savvy, more aware of how their own actions can impact their electric bill. The technology for being more energy efficient has gotten cheaper - from appliances to simple timers.

The most interesting thing though, is the utter dismissal that it would work to charge electric cars post 10pm. Sure, some would have to be charged at various times throughout the day, but the technology already exists to have a timer on a particular outlet. Heck, there are "smart" timers out there now, working in coordition with various electric companies (most programs still in testing phases) that know what the electric rate is per kw at any given time, and will operate according to pricing.

So, I don't think electric useage is the thing that will necessarily be the barrier that electic cars face. Most people will still be concerned with how far they can travel on a charge & will they be able to charge on the road, along with that initial vehicle cost, which is currently significantly higher than a similar fuel efficient car.

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Anne
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updated discount info:
$2.00 Off Discount to any performance of the film after 6:00 pm for the run-of-the-engagement. The film plays Friday, Nov. 18 through Thursday, November 24(Thanksgiving). Show times and more info at http://www.drexel.net.

Posted 6 months ago #
Walker
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Bump! Tonight!

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‘Electric Car’ director gives industry a plug
By Dan Gearino
The Columbus Dispatch
Friday November 18, 2011 7:00 AM

Electric cars have returned from the dead, and Chris Paine is telling the story. Paine directed the documentary Revenge of the Electric Car, a behind-the scenes look at how three automakers developed electric cars. He sees the film as a sequel of sorts to Who Killed the Electric Car?, his 2006 film about the demise of General Motors’ groundbreaking EV1 sedan.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/11/18/electric-car-director-gives-industry-a-plug.html

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