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Another interesting article from the NY Times:
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Rethinking the Country Life as Energy Costs Rise
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Posted 3 years ago #
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Oh, and here are some cool / informative slideshows from the article:
"Rethinking" slideshow:
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/24/business/0624-EXURBS_index.html
"Suburban Home Prices Dropping" slideshow:
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/24/business/0624-EXURBS_index.html
neato.
Posted 3 years ago # -
shroud
Polaris
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Mercurius wrote About fucking time!!! Seriously it took this long before the fucking tards in the burbs realized their little boxes were a straight ticket to hell. OK maybe a bit harsh, but what are the advantages of living in the burbs again? mowing?
:roll:
If this is a serious question, I'll be happy to lay out what I believe to be some advantages to living in the 'burbs.
These advantages don't apply to everyone, and for some people's lifestyles/ethics/finances, they may be outweighed by other factors, but seriously... calling someone a "fucking tard" because of where they choose to live?
Posted 3 years ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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shroud wrote but seriously... calling someone a "fucking tard" because of where they choose to live?
+1
This is the sort of news that urbanites should be happy to read. I'm not sure where the anger, swearing, and name-calling is coming from.
Unless Merc is trying to sound elitist and holier-than-though to keep people from moving into the city, because that's the last thing he wants to happen?
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Cyclist
Peach District (State of Mind)
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columbus wrote Oh, and here are some cool / informative slideshows from the article:
"Rethinking" slideshow:
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/24/business/0624-EXURBS_index.html
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That Denver slideshow is nice... $6.1 billion in rail investment in Denver!?
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JonMyers
HCMC ✈
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I read the article and found it to be well researched. Especially since that dirty ol' NYTimes is part of a liberal media conspiracy.
Even though they didn't have Columbus in the mix I would say this trending is aligned with this market as well. The data and story in the NYTimes article are exactly why this particular CU thread and the Dispatch story supporting the thread infuriated me the way it did.
The thread:
High gas prices won't stop Columbus sprawl
The notion that people in Columbus are not rethinking moves to the suburbs and beyond is idiotic.
What I found more fascinating beyond the Times article was the comments people left on the article.
These people are not living the "country life." They're commuting to and from a city while ruining the land around them. I grew up in an exurban area where commuters built their air conditioned McMansions and stayed inside them when they weren't driving to them. They didn't participate in local events, volunteer for fire or ambulance corps or election staffing, just drove a lot.
If someone wanted to move to the outskirts, learn to grow some of their own food, find a job locally, get to know the land--great. But anyone who buys a house with a 6-car garage like the one in the slideshow, gets what he or she deserves. Death to sprawl!
Indeed times are a changin'.
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Mercurius
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Walker wrote
No, I was trying to sound incendiary. People choosing to live in the 'burbs destroys prime farmland that is going to be needed in the near future. I really want to see an Urban Growth Boundary. Build up, not out. My goal is sustainability, and the burbs are by far the least sustainable, not to mention ugliest area's in our nation, the great failed experiment. I don't see anything good about them and seriously question the morality of doing a new build on what used to be farmland or forest. If you work there and buy a preexisting, reasonable sized house, I have no problem. If you build a McMansion on what was a farm field five years ago and drive to downtown then I stand by my statement.shroud wrote but seriously... calling someone a "fucking tard" because of where they choose to live?
+1
This is the sort of news that urbanites should be happy to read. I'm not sure where the anger, swearing, and name-calling is coming from.
Unless Merc is trying to sound elitist and holier-than-though to keep people from moving into the city, because that's the last thing he wants to happen?
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Cyclist
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shroud wrote
Mercurius wrote About fucking time!!! Seriously it took this long before the fucking tards in the burbs realized their little boxes were a straight ticket to hell. OK maybe a bit harsh, but what are the advantages of living in the burbs again? mowing?
:roll:
If this is a serious question, I'll be happy to lay out what I believe to be some advantages to living in the 'burbs.
These advantages don't apply to everyone, and for some people's lifestyles/ethics/finances, they may be outweighed by other factors, but seriously... calling someone a "fucking tard" because of where they choose to live?
I agree with Merc... these people are fucking tards. Thier actions are poorly thought out and immoral.
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hobbesOSU
West Side C-bus
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From the NYT:
Mr. Boyle and his wife must drive nearly an hour to their jobs in the high-tech corridor of southern Denver.
That's like living around Zanesville and commuting to downtown Columbus. Stuff like that is going to change. Living in Dublin and commuting to downtown Columbus, not so much change me thinks.
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BetsyB
Westgate
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after a trip to Mt. Vernon last night, I was actually jonesing to live in a small town again. I for one enjoyed living in a small town and would love to be doing it now, but I am cheap and don't want to waste gas or time on the commute. Plus I never had to deal with people who lived in town thinking they are superior to those living in the country. I am over this urbanite superiority complex people have...
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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Mercurius wrote No, I was trying to sound incendiary.
Because screaming at a problem is the best way to fix it?
Perhaps you should help out Jeni's with their new HEY YOU! EAT THIS UNPOPULAR FLAVOR OF ICE CREAM OR ELSE I WILL PUNCH YOU! marketing campaign.
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cab124
Downtown Columbus
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Cyclist wrote
shroud wrote
Mercurius wrote About fucking time!!! Seriously it took this long before the fucking tards in the burbs realized their little boxes were a straight ticket to hell. OK maybe a bit harsh, but what are the advantages of living in the burbs again? mowing?
:roll:
If this is a serious question, I'll be happy to lay out what I believe to be some advantages to living in the 'burbs.
These advantages don't apply to everyone, and for some people's lifestyles/ethics/finances, they may be outweighed by other factors, but seriously... calling someone a "fucking tard" because of where they choose to live?
I agree with Merc... these people are fucking tards. Thier actions are poorly thought out and immoral.
Urban fundamentalism.
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Mercurius
First Avenue
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Walker wrote
We have rationally talked and hinted with them for the last 25 years and they are just starting to get it now? Sorry didn't know I couldn't offend the New Albany Underground and should pussyfoot around every issue. Somehow I don't think what I say is ever going to have any sway over the Rush Limbaugh contingent which is mostly with whom my anger lies.Mercurius wrote No, I was trying to sound incendiary.
Because screaming at a problem is the best way to fix it
You don't see the dystopia in every new suburban subdivision?
http://www.flickr.com/groups/subdivisions/pool/
Freaks me out a bit
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lisathewaitress
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Not to get into a semantic argument, but these people aren't living the country life. I grew up in the country. The real country, where I could stand in the yard and see 360 degrees of horizon. We had a cow, we had chickens, and we grew almost all of our food.
clear cutting forests and destroying the natural prairie grasses and everything in Central Ohio is not country life. I have to admit I find some of Merc's pictures a little creepy. Okay, really creepy.
But, I think a lot of people don't really think about it. They aren't being stupid, it's just never occurred to them to live somewhere else. I work with a 21 year old who is from Worthington, and he can't wait to get his degree and settle back down in Worthington. He isn't being stupid, it's just he's always lived there and he loves it.
Of course, Worthington really isn't a suburb - I'm pretty sure it was a city before Columbus was. But still. These days it seems like a suburb.
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Daz
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Man, I swear this subdivision exists in Hilliard and I used to live in it.
Also, people have their reasons for living everywhere, to get all high and mighty about your life decisions is ridiculous and makes me feel like I'm talking to the people from the burbs who put down my city living because I live where the schools are all bad and the crime is too high and there's too much noise and there's too many bums, etc. etc.
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