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Presidential Election 2012
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lifeontwowheels
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patient_zero
Falafel District
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I saw Columbusites Tom Grote and Terry Penrod of Equality Ohio on tv during last night's DNC broadcast.
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Mr. Peabody
Clintonville
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Boy, Clinton sure hates that Obama fella, don't he? Played right into Rommney's hand with that display.
Oh, and not sure if the "why isn't Hillary at the convention?" concern trolling was addressed, but ahem:
Federal law -- the Hatch Act of 1939, amended by Congress in 1993 -- specifically prohibits secretaries of state from attending political conventions, and the State Department's own ethics guidelines also rule out political activity. A senior administration official, speaking on background because the official is not authorized to speak on the record, told CNN, "The law carved out the State Department as having a unique position in the government in that foreign policy, by its nature, must remain nonpartisan/apolitical.
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alexs
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I heard a clip of Michelle Obama speaking somewhere, and she said "This is my serious face" - that's a line from Team America World Police, so now I'm imagining her and Barak watching that move. I'll bet they laughed their heads off.
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Did 2/3 say yes? You decide:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/05/jerusalem_and_god_get_booed_at_dem_convention.htmlPosted 8 months ago # -
joev
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howatzer said:
Did 2/3 say yes? You decide:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/05/jerusalem_and_god_get_booed_at_dem_convention.htmlI'd boo Jerusalem seven ways from Sunday, too.
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Graybeak
Hunky Town
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CBS News Factchecking Bill Clinton's Speech.
I didn't go through all seven points that they touched on, but I was fascinated by the Job Creation stats on the first page.
Republicans:
Richard Nixon: + 7.1 million
Gerald Ford: +1.3 million
Ronald Reagan: + 14.7 million
George H. W. Bush: + 1.5 million
George W. Bush: -646,000Total jobs added: +23.9 million
Democrats
John F. Kennedy: +2.7 million
Lyndon B. Johnson: +9.5 million
Jimmy Carter: +9 million
Bill Clinton: +20.6 million
Barack Obama: +332,000Total jobs added: +42.1 million
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joev
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rus said:
Kinda explains why Obama demanded those be put back into the dem platform. Taking out support for Israel and mention of God may play to the base but perhaps less so in the wider public.Americans caring about what the capital of Israel is baffles me. Just like the people who got mad at the guy who skinny dipped in the Sea of Galilee. Even if you are religious, does either of those things matter one bit?
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joev said:
Americans caring about what the capital of Israel is baffles me. Just like the people who got mad at the guy who skinny dipped in the Sea of Galilee. Even if you are religious, does either of those things matter one bit?The part of the dem platform we're talking about had two separate items. From TFA:
Democrats have changed their convention platform to add a mention of God and declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
The move came after criticism from Republicans.
Many in the audience booed after the convention chairman, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, ruled that the amendments had been approved despite the fact that a large group of delegates objected.
He called for a vote three times before ruling.
The party reinstated language from the 2008 platform that said "we need a government that stands up for the hopes, values and interests of working people and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential."
The platform also now includes what advisers said was Obama's personal views on Jerusalem.
Bit more info on the internal dem politics:
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ChrisSunami
King-Lincoln District
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I thought the Dems' Convention was very interesting. One thing that stood out to me was that --unlike the GOP --they are clearly working very hard to get the moderates and the independents.
A lot of the speeches and talking points were aimed squarely at the conservative audience. Lots of God, guns, terrorist-killing, car-manufacturing and celebrating the troops --not exactly "fire up the liberal base" material. Speaking of which, I thought Crist's speech was good --very compelling.
Overall, although --full disclosures -- I didn't pay nearly as much attention to the GOP, I thought Convention vs Convention it was a solid win for the Democrats. They showed America of the Future versus the GOP as America of the Past.
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Twixlen
The Weston District
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ChrisSunami said:
I thought the Dems' Convention was very interesting. One thing that stood out to me was that --unlike the GOP --they are clearly working very hard to get the moderates and the independents.A lot of the speeches and talking points were aimed squarely at the conservative audience. Lots of God, guns, terrorist-killing, car-manufacturing and celebrating the troops --not exactly "fire up the liberal base" material. Speaking of which, I thought Crist's speech was good --very compelling.
Overall, although --full disclosures -- I didn't pay nearly as much attention to the GOP, I thought Convention vs Convention it was a solid win for the Democrats. They showed America of the Future versus the GOP as America of the Past.
It was really striking to me, the military component of the DNC. The Republican party has traditionally been the party of the military, but they didn't even acknowledge we're still at war in Afghanistan at the convention, or discuss the returning vets and their needs in coming home. The Republican focus on foreign policy was very rhetorical and stuck in the language of the cold war days; it was kind of like a time warp.
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