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Core_Models
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So Trump's foreign policy revolves around the concept of "we should go on to pillage any country we beat up".
Yeah, that seems like a well thought out platform.
Posted 1 year ago # -
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Core_Models wrote >>
So Trump's foreign policy revolves around the concept of "we should go on to pillage any country we beat up".
Yeah, that seems like a well thought out platform.Go to 5:29
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Obama's only prayer for re-election lies with the Republicans. If they nominate a terrible polarizing nominee/moron (which don't put it past them to do so) like Huckabee or Bachmann or Palin, then Obama has a chance. If they nominate someone reasonable like Mitch Daniels or Tim Pawlenty or another governor or dark horse, then Obama will lose. High unemployment, high debt, high gas prices. Not looking good.
Obama started re-election so early. His campaign is going to try and smear any Republican that starts to get a head up on the field, and just try to raise a ton of cash for a negative campaign. Hope/change has morphed to bitter/nasty/angry. His campaign theme could be "I am bad, but they will be worse."
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bastardsuperstar wrote >>
ColumbusTime wrote >>
but they will be worse."he'd be right . . .
I don't know about that. Obama has been a disaster. Broken almost every campaign promise; double down on Bush secrecy, meeting w/ lobbyists away from White House so no paper trail, etc.
The left basically shit themselves for 8 years with outrage over anything Bush did. But stone silent over Obama doing far worse.
Story just today of White House punishing reporter:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/bronstein/detail?entry_id=87978&tsp=1Posted 1 year ago # -
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The left basically shit themselves for 8 years with outrage over anything Bush did. But stone silent over Obama doing far worse.Bingo.
Obviously not reading anything from the left are ya?
This notion that the left doesn't criticize Obama is really gaining traction. I suspect that's more a result of repetition than reality though. Really, if you don't pay attention to Harper's, Matt Taibbi, Mother Jones, Rober Reich, Frank Rich, or The Progressive it's probably easy to think the left is giving Obama a free pass. They're not.
A friend of mine who's pretty active in the Democratic Party in his community had this to say on the matter, "Obama's critics from the Left have been seriously wearing my ass out for the last 2.5 years. It's non-stop with those guys..."
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jeff_r wrote >>
DavidF wrote >>
rus wrote >>
ColumbusTime wrote >>
The left basically shit themselves for 8 years with outrage over anything Bush did. But stone silent over Obama doing far worse.Bingo.
Obviously not reading anything from the left are ya?
This notion that the left doesn't criticize Obama is really gaining traction. I suspect that's more a result of repetition than reality though. Really, if you don't pay attention to Harper's, Matt Taibbi, Mother Jones, Rober Reich, Frank Rich, or The Progressive it's probably easy to think the left is giving Obama a free pass. They're not.
A friend of mine who's pretty active in the Democratic Party in his community had this to say on the matter, "Obama's critics from the Left have been seriously wearing my ass out for the last 2.5 years. It's non-stop with those guys..."Don't tell me you're surprised. If "left" == "democrat" and "left of democrat" == "nutjob", then dismissing the nutjobs as nutjobs equates to no leftist criticism of Obama.
Argument to be made for some democrats... Kuchinich comes to mind... but they're dismissed as the 'Ron Paul of the left'.
You can disagree with that, but seems to be the mechanism in play.
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The Democrats hold enough keys for re-election. Barring some amazing anomaly like say, the end of the world or a return to stealing elections (just kidding, your vote has never counted) - Obama wins.
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The left vs. right debate always disappoints because it conveniently and irrationally ignores the fact that Democrats and Republicans are merely two sides of the same party who successfully rule through slow and deliberate moderate change and the illusion that their constituents have a say in the matter.
As a distraction, the two teams pretend to vie for control over slavery inc., when they are actually owned and operated by corporations. The corporations are, in turn, ruled more or less by about 12 or 13 people, give or take 1 or 2. This is a high estimate, of course.
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thefiercelime wrote >>
The left vs. right debate always disappoints because it conveniently and irrationally ignores the fact that Democrats and Republicans are merely two sides of the same party.
Few years back I might have argued with you over that... these days, not so much.
With both the extreme left and the extreme right dismissed from public discourse, what's left? Looking more and more like effectively the same party, with some quibbles over details.
The tea party shook things up, forcing an apparent lurch towards the right in the Republican party, although one wonders how much the social conservatives who remained in the Republican party have muddled their influence.
Doesn't seem to be any similar movement on the left, despite some voices calling for one.
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rus wrote >>
thefiercelime wrote >>
The left vs. right debate always disappoints because it conveniently and irrationally ignores the fact that Democrats and Republicans are merely two sides of the same party.Few years back I might have argued with you over that... these days, not so much.
With both the extreme left and the extreme right dismissed from public discourse, what's left? Looking more and more like effectively the same party, with some quibbles over details.
The tea party shook things up, forcing an apparent lurch towards the right in the Republican party, although one wonders how much the social conservatives who remained in the Republican party have muddled their influence.
Doesn't seem to be any similar movement on the left, despite some voices calling for one.Well, self-serving Nader gave us Bush, so I'm not sure you can say the left hasn't been evident in politics (effectively castrated most of the time, yes).
If you've signed onto the faux news vision that nbc/cbs/abc/wapo/and to a certain extent nyt, constitutes the left wing media in this country, then you're objectively deluded. The left wing has been all over obama's ass, but to be honest very little mainstream media covers that. Why, because the left wing media in this country has been dismissed by the more moderate media as unworthy of any coverage at all for a long time, much longer than either obamas or bush's tenure.
To be honest, from a media standpoint intercine warfare between the left and dem establishment over policy does not make nearly as good tv as tea partiers carrying blantantly racist signs and claiming obama is destroying america. The media goes where the loudest shooting it, they are often like pavlov's dogs that way.
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myliftkk wrote >>
The left wing has been all over obama's ass, but to be honest very little mainstream media covers that. Why, because the left wing media in this country has been dismissed by the more moderate media as unworthy of any coverage at all for a long time, much longer than either obamas or bush's tenure.You may get outbursts like this:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/21/news/la-pn-obama-fundraiser-20110421
Notice that the protesters paid Obama $5,000 for the privilege of asking "where's the change?".
So... they won't vote republican. They donate to democrats while complaining. Why would Obama bother listening to them? There an actual chance of them voting for a third party ( see: Nader ) or even curtailing their donations?
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Core_Models
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I'll vote for Obama again just for the Correspondents' Dinners. The guy's comedic timing at those things is top notch.
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