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I usually get my tickets on the way there a couple of minutes after the game starts...
The upper bowl is always packed though.
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The Sale/Purchase of Nationwide Arena
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Tigertree
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Posted 2 years ago # -
agtw31
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sports guy on channel 6 just asked the president of the bluejackets what is going on,and he puked out the usual non-comments
the sports reporters here are so frigging lame.
between the lines,it sounds like rosenberger's helping them find a buyer for this turd.
Posted 2 years ago # -
buckeyecpa
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If you're a fan of the city and it's growth you should be willing to back the blue jackets. Obviously there are tax issues at stake when talking about the team and the lease. If the blue jackets become unable to resolve this we could be in some serious growth pains. Filling the arena would ultimately be too hard. Arena's need full time tenants (sports teams are obviously it). Without the team the arena will slowly fade. The hit to the neighborhood and area would be extreme. You can't keep the arena functioning without that income. Concerts and special events aren't enough to keep it pumping plus the surrounding businesses busy. Once the outside food and entertainment establishments become forced to close you'll see the schott become the full time it spot. The area needs the blue jackets.
Also, many are considering other sports teams. Hockey is the best answer. Basketball? The NBA would not be interested in Columbus, OH. There is already a dominate sports following here with the buckeyes and there would be fear of failure in the league. Along with that, there isn't much room for expansion in the league. If anyone gets a team in the near future it will be Seattle.
I hope everyone really thinks hard on this and even thinks about it without the tax issue for a minute. The arena is a major establishment/anchor to the district. Many areas benefit on the overflow of people it brings on event nights.
At some point Nationwide will be forced to renegotiate the lease. With our support of the team it will be helpful in accomplishing this. The executives and accountants within Nationwide are aware that it will become too expensive to continue the operation and upkeep of the arena without a residency established. Hopefully the attorneys, nationwide, cbj, and the city players can hammer through this when the pressure rises.
Posted 2 years ago # -
buckeyecpa
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JohnRClem wrote >>
Can't the Blue Jackets sell some players to get the salary down to what it was a few years ago and use that money to start buying the arena from Nationwide.
Tax payer dollars would be much better spent on planning Crew Stadium 2.0 at the newly cleaned up site they were going to put the casino in the arena district. ;-)Players salaries aren't what they appear in operating terms. Teams often show a loss or minimal profits because there are great accounting tricks with professional sports. The biggest thing is the writeoff you get from the salaries. They are able to claim the player's contracts can be depreciated.
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agtw31
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buckeyecpa wrote >>
If you're a fan of the city and it's growth you should be willing to back the blue jackets.im a fan of this city,but the bluejackets can take a hike.
quit blaming the shitty lease with Nationwide as the reason this hockey team is losing it's ass.
this is a college football town,period
everything else brought here just ends up being a sideshow
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buckeyecpa
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agtw31 wrote >>
buckeyecpa wrote >>
If you're a fan of the city and it's growth you should be willing to back the blue jackets.im a fan of this city,but the bluejackets can take a hike.
quit blaming the shitty lease with Nationwide as the reason this hockey team is losing it's ass.
this is a college football town,period
everything else brought here just ends up being a sideshowIt wouldn't hurt being open minded on this. The shitty lease is exactly why they are losing their ass. The team's support ($) inside the arena is doing well. The only hurt is the lease. Most professional franchises involved in these deals hurt. The way it was developed and signed hurt the potential income the team could make. This is income that many other teams have access too. If this team goes it will not be replaced. Look at the trend of what happens when a major sports team leaves an arena and what happens to the surrounding area. When I say surrounding it's not just the Arena District. You will see the victorian village, short north, downtown, brewery district areas become hit due to this. Just because you're not a fan of the sport or team (obviously by the football town comment ) doesn't mean it does not benefit you or your friends.
This does not come down to a sports franchise within our city. This comes down to the economic impact. It is our responsibility to support opportunities and ideas that improve our city. You won't always be a fan of everything that goes on around you but you can at least look at the big picture and realize what it brings to the table. I'm sure many in the SN aren't into body building and the arnold. But if you ask may of the business owners they'll say they welcome it even if they don't understand it. This is similar.
The sin tax wouldn't hurt any of us unless we're directly involved in those industries as much as we're led to believe. It may cause early problems for businesses but people will still be out buying their booze and having a good time. Plus the money would offset with many of those businesses around the Arena. It's a better option than having the team leave and not selling any alcohol.
A city tax increase isn't necessary but again shouldn't be much. The city will be a great benefit if we owned the arena. There are many benefits. We're allowing Nationwide to play hardball by not showing support. They think without support the city will back away due to the risk of failure. With support it allows the city to back away while forcing nationwide to ease the lease.
Posted 2 years ago # -
agtw31
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i actually can't stand Ohio state football.
what else i can't stand is "businessmen" in this town,who start up a business,then when the business goes bad,they and their fans think "taxes" can solve their problems.
as far as bars and entertainment in the Arena district being economically smacked if the bluejackets leave,i have the smallest violin in the world playing a song for them.
it's called capitalism,buckeyecpa.
if you're losing money,shut it down,or sell your assets,and call it a wash.
what you need to do is take a good look at this city,and realize it doesn't revolve around some frigging arena and a bunch of bars.
im afraid you're going to have to get a new drug for the bored folks to buy in Columbus,because this bluejacket acid is bad stuff.
Posted 2 years ago # -
buckeyecpa
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impressive.
Posted 2 years ago # -
adrock
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well like the first post says...it's 42 games a year. that's not a big deal. the arena district takes care of itself when the weather is nice and that's the beginning and the end of hockey season.
if rent is the problem though, i don't know why nationwide doesn't just buy the team. like i've posted before about the crew, the same company owns the stadium and the team...so even if the team does technically pay rent, it's just a single company paying rent to itself.
Posted 2 years ago # -
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I lost faith after Arena Bowl XXI.
If we need to tear it down and turn it into Columbus Commons II so be it. I think the Arena District can survive the loss of the Blue Jackets.
I do wonder if the Arena District has overextended itself. Does anyone know how developments like 300 West Spring St are doing. I kind of worry that the Arena District may be a bit like the phenomena of manufactured bands. That it is possible to 'buy' a successful new nieghborhood, and overhype it, atleast in its current form. It has not yet had the test of time.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Core_Models
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Yeah, loss of the Arena and/or Bluejackets would be devastating to the area. No question about it. I haven't been to a game, don't intend to go to a game, but the AD will be the next BD without the Jackets/Arena.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Tenzo
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Walker wrote >>
Every year there's a "the bars can't wait for hockey season" article in the Dispatch.
I think it would be safe to say that some of those businesses would close if the jackets were lost.Guess they would need another venue that would bring in people and their money. Some other business that would bring gamblers to the Arena district.
Posted 2 years ago # -
buckeyecpa
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Unfortunately arts doesn't bring in the money to the neighborhoods, county, city like a sports team. There is money that goes towards the arts, not saying it's enough though.
Our tax dollars can't always go to things we only enjoy. We have to think about the city instead of ourselves. There are plenty of groups and things my tax money goes to that I don't support. If it's neighborhood related and I can see the impact I will support it.
I really wish there would be a true way to show the breakdown of $ spent and earned during the hockey season. But too many are cynical so it wouldn't even matter. They would just say well I'm not benefiting directly so those groups should buy the team.
It was mentioned for nationwide to buy the team. Usually big corporations don't buy the teams. They buy the stadiums or they buy the naming rights. This usually causes a problem to the franchise. But many individuals can't afford to purchase both.
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Core_Models
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I'm on the official Blue Jackets mailing list, and they just sent out an email with the Forward Together message. Kinda weird that it came right from the CBJ organization.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Core_Models
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groundrules wrote >>
I'm on the official Blue Jackets mailing list, and they just sent out an email with the Forward Together message. Kinda weird that it came right from the CBJ organization.Caught the news this morning, not really surprising as Hitchcock and wife seemed to be the official spokespeople.
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