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cheap said:
+1000creating a hipster amusement park downtown won't do shit for the homeowner on Maize Rd.
The homeowner on Maize Rd could move if they want, right?
Just saying.....
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DTown
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cheap said:
+1000creating a hipster amusement park downtown won't do shit for the homeowner on Maize Rd.
It could. If it generated a positive revenue stream for the city that provides the services that make that home on Maize Rd. a more desirable place to live. Or even offsets some of the cost that the homeowner would otherwise have to bear themselves.
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cheap said:
+1000creating a hipster amusement park downtown won't do shit for the homeowner on Maize Rd.
OK, now I'm picturing a hipster amusement park.
Like a black spray of buddy holly specs flying off malnourished, unwashed faces as they're thrown through a roller coaster corkscrew.
There's an entrance to the park, but it's underground and no one tells you where it is.
PBR snowcones.
The merry go round has no horses, but fixed gear bicycles welded to posts instead.
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DTown said:
It could. If it generated a positive revenue stream for the city that provides the services that make that home on Maize Rd. a more desirable place to live. Or even offsets some of the cost that the homeowner would otherwise have to bear themselves.Fair enough. And as it's track record indicates, what if this same arena resulted in a negative revenue stream, lessening the cities ability to provide services? Wouldn't that result in lower home values and added financial burden to that Maize Rd. resident?
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DTown said:
It could. If it generated a positive revenue stream for the city that provides the services that make that home on Maize Rd. a more desirable place to live. Or even offsets some of the cost that the homeowner would otherwise have to bear themselves.Like using the revenue from the soon to open casino to provide those same services and offset those costs for the entire city.
Or, buy an arena.
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JeepGirl said:
Fair enough. And as it's track record indicates, what if this same arena resulted in a negative revenue stream, lessening the cities ability to provide services? Wouldn't that result in lower home values and added financial burden to that Maize Rd. resident?Sure, that's the downside, that someone is going to screw up and build a hipster amusement park that no one comes to. Is the district generating more or less revenue for the city now than it was before the arena was built?
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cheap
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DTown said:
Sure, that's the downside, that someone is going to screw up and build a hipster amusement park that no one comes to. Is the district generating more or less revenue for the city now than it was before the arena was built?i seem to remember a place called the brewery district doing the same thing 15 years ago.
how's it doing?
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JeepGirl said:
Fair enough. And as it's track record indicates, what if this same arena resulted in a negative revenue stream, lessening the cities ability to provide services? Wouldn't that result in lower home values and added financial burden to that Maize Rd. resident?Does anyone have any numbers on the overall economic impact of the arean or the AD, with or without the current financial deal?
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jbcmh81 said:
Does anyone have any numbers on the overall economic impact of the arean or the AD, with or without the current financial deal?This is from 2008 - Arena District Economic Study
Lots has changed since then, locally and nationally, but much of it still applies.
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DTown said:
This is from 2008 - Arena District Economic StudyLots has changed since then, locally and nationally, but much of it still applies.
Average annual wages per District employee was $64,655 in 2006, representing
over $350 million in total District wages in 2006.I wonder if that includes the hockey players.
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MRipley said:
Maybe the majority of its citizens don't care whether the city has a "big time" image. They might be perfectly fine with a small town atmosphere.Want a small town atmosphere? Move to a small town. Columbus is the 15th biggest in the country with a steadily growing population. Not sure why anyone would expect the city to feel any smaller than it is.
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cheap said:
i seem to remember a place called the brewery district doing the same thing 15 years ago.how's it doing?
The Brewery District is doing great! Some of the rowdy nightlife is gone, but it's remained a strong office & residential neighborhood with high property values and high rental rates...
http://www.columbusunderground.com/welcome-back-to-the-brewery-district
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Walker said:
Want a small town atmosphere? Move to a small town. Columbus is the 15th biggest in the country with a steadily growing population. Not sure why anyone would expect the city to feel any smaller than it is.A large concentrated population with a small town feel right here in Columbus. Nothing wrong with that. Might be that people like it that way. Maybe not you, but you're not everybody.
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JeepGirl said:
A large concentrated population with a small town feel right here in Columbus. Nothing wrong with that. Might be that people like it that way. Maybe not you, but you're not everybody.No, nothing wrong with that at all. I certainly like that Columbus has a friendly vibe that is generally more associated with smaller towns than with larger cities where people are bitter and don't make eye contact with each other.
But if you want to live in a true small town, move to a place where less than 10,000 people live rather than fight against the changes in Columbus that come with the growth and maturation that a city goes through with an increasing population.
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cheap
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Walker said:
No, nothing wrong with that at all. I certainly like that Columbus has a friendly vibe that is generally more associated with smaller towns than with larger cities where people are bitter and don't make eye contact with each other.But if you want to live in a true small town, move to a place where less than 10,000 people live rather than fight against the changes in Columbus that come with the growth and maturation that a city goes through with an increasing population.
all that growth and maturation brought that Polaris mess to Columbus.
or was it the other way around?Posted 11 months ago # -
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DTown said:
This is from 2008 - Arena District Economic StudyLots has changed since then, locally and nationally, but much of it still applies.
The very first sentence in the study footnotes:
1 The authors did not attempt to estimate how much of the reported local investment and spending would have occurred anyway in other parts of central Ohio had the Arena District not been developed.Most economic impact studies are simply tools created to sell someone on something and small print footnote disclaimers such as this are the reason why they aren't worth the paper they're written on.
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