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Started 1 year ago by Antonio
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Antonio

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Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.

http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

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joshlapp
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Antonio wrote >>
Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

Elaborate please. This article isn't news. You could include the 66, 7 and 18 as routes all driven by students (or OSU in general) as well.

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Antonio

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The 31P ( Polaris Mall Express ) - bi hourly service from downtown Columbus up High Street to Polaris Mall . This would be limited express service 7 days a week for shoppers and workers there.

This would connect with every bus service downtown and various cross town routes as well. All of the Columbus would benefit. The OSU students have the muscle and financial power to make it happen.

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

Elaborate please. This article isn't news. You could include the 66, 7 and 18 as routes all driven by students (or OSU in general) as well.

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CMH2579

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This article is from Oct 2010, it is not new.

I am not sure were you are getting this 31P Polaris Mall Express from, but it is not, and has never been, on the table.

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joshlapp
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Antonio wrote >>
The 31P ( Polaris Mall Express ) - bi hourly service from downtown Columbus up High Street to Polaris Mall . This would be limited express service 7 days a week for shoppers and workers there.
This would connect with every bus service downtown and various cross town routes as well. All of the Columbus would benefit. The OSU students have the muscle and financial power to make it happen.

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

Elaborate please. This article isn't news. You could include the 66, 7 and 18 as routes all driven by students (or OSU in general) as well.

The problem is you don't have much incentive for OSU students to make this happen. If a suburban mall was going to be connected to OSU via COTA is would be Easton not Polaris.

Perhaps if you want to make this happen, you should have the people that would benefit from the service campaign for it, or show the need that is now in place.

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Antonio

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I understand that it wasn't, it is now.

The Lantern article was used to show who was the driving force behind the NIGHTOWL service being started, the students at OSU. The 66 - the students at OSU.

Any entity that pumps hundreds of thousand of dollars yearly into COTA annually is going to have a big voice at the table.

CMH2579 wrote >>
This article is from Oct 2010, it is not new.
I am not sure were you are getting this 31P Polaris Mall Express from, but it is not, and has never been, on the table.

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Antonio

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One can already ride COTA to Easton multiple times a day from OSU, they can not do that to Polaris.

This is the #1 destination OSU students want to go to via COTA and can't except for very early service from downtown.

http://www.cota.com/assets/Riding-Cota/Schedules/Current/029.pdf

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
The 31P ( Polaris Mall Express ) - bi hourly service from downtown Columbus up High Street to Polaris Mall . This would be limited express service 7 days a week for shoppers and workers there.
This would connect with every bus service downtown and various cross town routes as well. All of the Columbus would benefit. The OSU students have the muscle and financial power to make it happen.

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

Elaborate please. This article isn't news. You could include the 66, 7 and 18 as routes all driven by students (or OSU in general) as well.

The problem is you don't have much incentive for OSU students to make this happen. If a suburban mall was going to be connected to OSU via COTA is would be Easton not Polaris.
Perhaps if you want to make this happen, you should have the people that would benefit from the service campaign for it, or show the need that is now in place.

Posted 1 year ago #
CMH2579

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The #1 destination OSU students want service to directly from campus, if you want to use these things called "facts" is Easton Town Center (this is from the 2008 COTA PAC survey).

The 66 is not student driven or geared toward students, it is an express route that runs limited hours and is geared toward the large OSU faculty and staff population located in Hillard.

Antonio wrote >>
One can already ride COTA to Easton multiple times a day from OSU, they can not do that to Polaris.
This is the #1 destination OSU students want to go to via COTA and can't except for very early service from downtown.
http://www.cota.com/assets/Riding-Cota/Schedules/Current/029.pdf

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
The 31P ( Polaris Mall Express ) - bi hourly service from downtown Columbus up High Street to Polaris Mall . This would be limited express service 7 days a week for shoppers and workers there.
This would connect with every bus service downtown and various cross town routes as well. All of the Columbus would benefit. The OSU students have the muscle and financial power to make it happen.

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

Elaborate please. This article isn't news. You could include the 66, 7 and 18 as routes all driven by students (or OSU in general) as well.

The problem is you don't have much incentive for OSU students to make this happen. If a suburban mall was going to be connected to OSU via COTA is would be Easton not Polaris.
Perhaps if you want to make this happen, you should have the people that would benefit from the service campaign for it, or show the need that is now in place.

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Antonio

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2008 COTA survey even offer Polaris as an option then ?

Funny how if you leave options off, that can't be one then huh.

Going to the largest shopping venue in the entire state of Ohio should not even be mentioned. Sure - LOL

CMH2579 wrote >>
The #1 destination OSU students want service to directly from campus, if you want to use these things called "facts" is Easton Town Center (this is from the 2008 COTA PAC survey).
The 66 is not student driven or geared toward students, it is an express route that runs limited hours and is geared toward the large OSU faculty and staff population located in Hillard.

Antonio wrote >>
One can already ride COTA to Easton multiple times a day from OSU, they can not do that to Polaris.
This is the #1 destination OSU students want to go to via COTA and can't except for very early service from downtown.
http://www.cota.com/assets/Riding-Cota/Schedules/Current/029.pdf

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
The 31P ( Polaris Mall Express ) - bi hourly service from downtown Columbus up High Street to Polaris Mall . This would be limited express service 7 days a week for shoppers and workers there.
This would connect with every bus service downtown and various cross town routes as well. All of the Columbus would benefit. The OSU students have the muscle and financial power to make it happen.

joshlapp wrote >>

Antonio wrote >>
Stay tuned...they used their influence once before, it's time to do it again.
http://www.thelantern.com/campus/cota-night-owl-encourages-osu-students-to-ride-downtown-1.1677639

Elaborate please. This article isn't news. You could include the 66, 7 and 18 as routes all driven by students (or OSU in general) as well.

The problem is you don't have much incentive for OSU students to make this happen. If a suburban mall was going to be connected to OSU via COTA is would be Easton not Polaris.
Perhaps if you want to make this happen, you should have the people that would benefit from the service campaign for it, or show the need that is now in place.

Posted 1 year ago #
CMH2579

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Polaris Fashion Place opened in 2001 so I would hope it was included on a survey in 2008...

Graduate Students: South Campus Gateway (43.9%), Columbus Airport (46.3%), and
Easton Mall (41.5%)

Undergraduate Students: South Campus Gateway (54.9%), Easton Mall (61.6%), and
Polaris Mall (48.9%)

Posted 1 year ago #
bjones7
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Can you please show us your source, or tell use your source on how you heard about the 31P ? First off, this doesn't even sound like COTA, if you want to base this off "she said he said" . I would think COTA would use a different route number, and if it was a "limited express", COTA would introduce the concept(website,public meetings,etc) before applying it. There is currently no such term that COTA uses as the "limited express". I know what you mean when you say "limited express" so explaining the concept won't make any difference( I lived in San Fran where they had limited bus service). So please let us know your actual source about the 31P COTA route. Thanks!

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Antonio

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Polls in 2008 showed Hillary winning the Democratic nomination as well.

Where's the link to your poll....

Got news for you the years is 2011 and the service would not be exclusive to OSU students and faculty alone as the route does not start or end at OSU.

CMH2579 wrote >>
Polaris Fashion Place opened in 2001 so I would hope it was included on a survey in 2008...
Graduate Students: South Campus Gateway (43.9%), Columbus Airport (46.3%), and
Easton Mall (41.5%)
Undergraduate Students: South Campus Gateway (54.9%), Easton Mall (61.6%), and
Polaris Mall (48.9%)

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Antonio

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This isn't what COTA has termed it, this is what the students at OSU have termed it. It would operate in a similair fashion that the 31 does with limited stops on High Street.

This is COTA remember, they can't even go to Graceland Shopping center and see a lot that has been empty for over a year and imagine that it could be used as a turnaround for the bus routes.

Pressure has to build from the ground up with OSU, the students as the catalyst. They wont do it with out it.

bjones7 wrote >>
Can you please show us your source, or tell use your source on how you heard about the 31P ? First off, this doesn't even sound like COTA, if you want to base this off "she said he said" . I would think COTA would use a different route number, and if it was a "limited express", COTA would introduce the concept(website,public meetings,etc) before applying it. There is currently no such term that COTA uses as the "limited express". I know what you mean when you say "limited express" so explaining the concept won't make any difference( I lived in San Fran where they had limited bus service). So please let us know your actual source about the 31P COTA route. Thanks!

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CMH2579

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Are you sure you aren't "the students" and this thread isn't the "grass roots" effort? Because there isn't such an effort on the OSU or COTA side.

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thepiece
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I work with osu students on a regular basis, hear lots of complaints about Columbus's transit from students, but have never heard any of them express a need for better bus service to Polaris.
Promise to replace the COTA fast trax proposal for the north corridor and you would generate more excitement.
Antonio, your transit posts and complaints about the former ODOT director is giving me Chucky deja vu.

Posted 1 year ago #
takeasiesta
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I'm an OSU student and there is zero reason to go to Polaris or Graceland. Everything at Graceland is located much closer to campus. Target (Lennox), Urban Active (Grandview), Applebees (Olentangy River Road), Kroger (Olentangy or High St. in Clintonville, or Upper Arlington), Half-Price Books (Lane Ave.) etc. All the stores that are unique to Polaris are geared towards older wealthy folks and Hilliard Rome Road and Easton have practically every restaurant chain that you can think of. Easton has stores/attractions that are not available anywhere else in the Columbus market: Nordstrom, Lego Store, Coach, Tiffany's, North Face, Funny Bone etc.

Essentially what you did when you didn't have a car, was bum a ride from someone who had a car. It really wasn't that hard.

Antonio wrote >>
This isn't what COTA has termed it, this is what the students at OSU have termed it. It would operate in a similair fashion that the 31 does with limited stops on High Street.
This is COTA remember, they can't even go to Graceland Shopping center and see a lot that has been empty for over a year and imagine that it could be used as a turnaround for the bus routes.
Pressure has to build from the ground up with OSU, the students as the catalyst. They wont do it with out it.

bjones7 wrote >>
Can you please show us your source, or tell use your source on how you heard about the 31P ? First off, this doesn't even sound like COTA, if you want to base this off "she said he said" . I would think COTA would use a different route number, and if it was a "limited express", COTA would introduce the concept(website,public meetings,etc) before applying it. There is currently no such term that COTA uses as the "limited express". I know what you mean when you say "limited express" so explaining the concept won't make any difference( I lived in San Fran where they had limited bus service). So please let us know your actual source about the 31P COTA route. Thanks!

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DavidF
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takeasiesta wrote >>
I'm an OSU student and there is zero reason to go to Polaris or Graceland. Everything at Graceland is located much closer to campus. Target (Lennox), Urban Active (Grandview), Applebees (Olentangy River Road), Kroger (Olentangy or High St. in Clintonville, or Upper Arlington), Half-Price Books (Lane Ave.) etc. All the stores that are unique to Polaris are geared towards older wealthy folks and Hilliard Rome Road and Easton have practically every restaurant chain that you can think of. Easton has stores/attractions that are not available anywhere else in the Columbus market: Nordstrom, Lego Store, Coach, Tiffany's, North Face, Funny Bone etc.
Essentially what you did when you didn't have a car, was bum a ride from someone who had a car. It really wasn't that hard.

Antonio wrote >>
This isn't what COTA has termed it, this is what the students at OSU have termed it. It would operate in a similair fashion that the 31 does with limited stops on High Street.
This is COTA remember, they can't even go to Graceland Shopping center and see a lot that has been empty for over a year and imagine that it could be used as a turnaround for the bus routes.
Pressure has to build from the ground up with OSU, the students as the catalyst. They wont do it with out it.

bjones7 wrote >>
Can you please show us your source, or tell use your source on how you heard about the 31P ? First off, this doesn't even sound like COTA, if you want to base this off "she said he said" . I would think COTA would use a different route number, and if it was a "limited express", COTA would introduce the concept(website,public meetings,etc) before applying it. There is currently no such term that COTA uses as the "limited express". I know what you mean when you say "limited express" so explaining the concept won't make any difference( I lived in San Fran where they had limited bus service). So please let us know your actual source about the 31P COTA route. Thanks!

You forgot Bob's bar!

Posted 1 year ago #
gramarye
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COTA already has a route that goes to the shopping center most frequented by OSU students: The #84, servicing the Lennox.

Most people going from OSU to Easton are going to drive, even if there's a bus route there, especially if it's not an express route. If the students seriously wanted a more organized way of getting to and from Easton on a regular basis, a better option would be an organized, centralized carpool-posting site, where people could organize the bummings of rides that takeasiesta mentioned. (Most of the Easton-obsessed sorority girls I knew at OSU, of course, would carpool to Easton quite efficiently because they were always going with 3-4 of their girlfriends anyway.)

Posted 1 year ago #
Walker
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Antonio - This is something you've brought up over and over and over. Very aggressively.

What personal interest do you have in connecting OSU students with Polaris? Are you a student? Are you a Polaris-area business owner?

Just wondering if there's an agenda at play here that you'd like to disclose to help us understand why you're really bashing people over the head with this.

Thanks.

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takeasiesta
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Taking the bus to Easton probably takes an hour each way. It's just not worth it when there are other options.

OSU does have rideshare for people with a valid OSU ID through off campus services and there are green initiatives going on at OSU http://www.tp.ohio-state.edu/fleetservices/scarletgraygreen.shtml

I could of sworn there was some sort of zip car parking space on 12th and College, but we aren't listed on the website. None of Ohio is. http://www.zipcar.com/ I need to walk by there again.

@DavidF I never get that far north cause I have zero desire to eat TJ's. If I'm with my Clintonville friends we always end up at O'Reilly's pub. Sounds like a blast though.

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