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berdawn
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Manatee wrote >>
I don't equate hillbilly with Southerner, I equate it with Appalachian. I thought berdawn was just pointing out our local euphemisms for things. Most people around here outside of the cities and suburbs refer to themselves as hillbillies on a common and unironic basis. Many of them are even proud of it.
I know lots of really awesome hillbillies, and a few real a-holes. I also know a lot of really smart hillbillies.
It's really interesting being considered a liberal hippie way out here in staunch Mountain Dew/Marlboro/uber-conservative country. Leads to a lot of unusual conversations.
Most hillbilly English is derived from Elizabethan English, or older, as well as Scottish. Many hillbilly turns of phrase can be found in plays by Shakespeare.

One of the best teachers I had used Shakespearean insults to tie the language we were studying to that of his students! (my meemaw talks like Shakespeare?!?) I'm hearing less and less of the particular inflections with which I grew up, but then I suppose that is true for most of the world.

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Tenzo
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O. H. - I. O.

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Twixlen
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Aaaaaah-yup = Hello

Well, don't let the door hitcha = Get out while you can still walk

Will you pour me a coke? = I'd like some Dr. Pepper

BBQ = shredded pork dressed with nothing but vinegar, red pepper flakes & tabasco

Creekin' = Going to the nearest stream and overturning random rocks until you find something interesting

Little pit-chers = Kids are in the room, so watch what's said

Set a spell = (one of my faves) Sitting down and chatting, usually with a glass of something in hand

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osulew
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Manatee wrote >>
I don't equate hillbilly with Southerner, I equate it with Appalachian. I thought berdawn was just pointing out our local euphemisms for things. Most people around here outside of the cities and suburbs refer to themselves as hillbillies on a common and unironic basis. Many of them are even proud of it.
I know lots of really awesome hillbillies, and a few real a-holes. I also know a lot of really smart hillbillies.
It's really interesting being considered a liberal hippie way out here in staunch Mountain Dew/Marlboro/uber-conservative country. Leads to a lot of unusual conversations.
Most hillbilly English is derived from Elizabethan English, or older, as well as Scottish. Many hillbilly turns of phrase can be found in plays by Shakespeare.

Yeah. Hillbilly generally = Appalachian residents living in mountainous areas. Although my great-grandmother and great-grandfather came from "the holler" in some nameless town in Kentucky. They still called themselves "old hillbillies"
Shouldn't they have been "hollerbillies?" Is there such a thing?

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Snarf
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i've always preferred hilljack to hillbilly.

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SusanB
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Another thing the hubby says all the time is "Quit yer dillydallying". In other words, "move your ass".

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Nitsud Regnifloh
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(I cant think of anything nice to say about this thread and feel like I would be required to lay out an outlined, well-thought-out argument, so I am keeping my proverbial mouth shut)

I say almost all of those phrases...and I would not consider myself a hillbilly, although some of you do.

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Tenzo
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Nitsud Regnifloh wrote >>
this thread is wack.

That's Wigger, not Hillbilly

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somertimeoh
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osulew wrote >>

Manatee wrote >>
I don't equate hillbilly with Southerner, I equate it with Appalachian. I thought berdawn was just pointing out our local euphemisms for things. Most people around here outside of the cities and suburbs refer to themselves as hillbillies on a common and unironic basis. Many of them are even proud of it.
I know lots of really awesome hillbillies, and a few real a-holes. I also know a lot of really smart hillbillies.
It's really interesting being considered a liberal hippie way out here in staunch Mountain Dew/Marlboro/uber-conservative country. Leads to a lot of unusual conversations.
Most hillbilly English is derived from Elizabethan English, or older, as well as Scottish. Many hillbilly turns of phrase can be found in plays by Shakespeare.

Yeah. Hillbilly generally = Appalachian residents living in mountainous areas. Although my great-grandmother and great-grandfather came from "the holler" in some nameless town in Kentucky. They still called themselves "old hillbillies"
Shouldn't they have been "hollerbillies?" Is there such a thing?

It's offensive to SOMEONE and that was my point. I just think if you're going to be a public crusader against oppressive language, why pick and choose? Hillbilly, redneck, hayseed, yokel, bumpkin, etc. are all pretty interchangeable for "people who grew up or live in in the sticks".

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she throw up some leg

got one backin' up in the chutes

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Cookie
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somertimeoh wrote >>
It's offensive to SOMEONE and that was my point. I just think if you're going to be a public crusader against oppressive language, why pick and choose? Hillbilly, redneck, hayseed, yokel, bumpkin, etc. are all pretty interchangeable for "people who grew up or live in in the sticks".

There's an argument to be made for reclaiming terms that were used as slurs against you. One of my dearest friends refers to himself as "white trash," a term which makes me cringe and I would never use to describe somebody else, but I'm not going to tell anyone how they should self-identify.

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somertimeoh
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Cookie wrote >>

somertimeoh wrote >>
It's offensive to SOMEONE and that was my point. I just think if you're going to be a public crusader against oppressive language, why pick and choose? Hillbilly, redneck, hayseed, yokel, bumpkin, etc. are all pretty interchangeable for "people who grew up or live in in the sticks".

There's an argument to be made for reclaiming terms that were used as slurs against you. One of my dearest friends refers to himself as "white trash," a term which makes me cringe and I would never use to describe somebody else, but I'm not going to tell anyone how they should self-identify.

I call myself white trash all the time, much to my mother's dismay. That is fairly common knowledge around here, this isn't about me.

I don't really want to get in to it, especially with you, but this thread just struck me as SOOOOO hypocritical based on what has happened over the last few days. I mean, has everyone forgotten the verbal assault that started because NR referred to an imaginative group of people as pussies?!? So I guess in the berdawn hierarchy of oppressive language pussies > hillbillies. Fine, whatever, but at least acknowledge that there's some hypocrisy there. That is all.

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Twixlen
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^^^ Haven't forgotten, and yes, the hypocrisy is most certainly there. What's good for the goose and all that....

So, I think it is an interesting thread topic - there are so many colloquialisms, some personal, some specific to a region, some just funny. And those phrases seem to be winding their way out of our language - so yeah, it interests me, how other people's people would put some flavor into their speech.

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Cookie
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somertimeoh wrote >>
So I guess in the berdawn hierarchy of oppressive language pussies > hillbillies. Fine, whatever, but at least acknowledge that there's some hypocrisy there. That is all.

It's not a hierarchy. There is a different context in using a word to describe yourself than there is to using a word to describe someone else. Surely you see the difference between calling yourself white trash and somebody else calling you white trash, especially somebody that doesn't know you and intends it to be an insult.

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osulew
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I work in the fringes of Appalachia every day. There are huge numbers of people here proud of that heritage and proud to be "hillbillies" and self-identify as such. They also think it's cute to call me "city kid" and I giggle with them. However, it wouldn't be acceptable for me to come blazing in and calling them all hillbillies. (except for the few that do know that my family comes from the hollers of Greenup County, KY and had no indoor plumbing until they moved to the big city of Marion, OH in the 70's) That wouldn't go over as well. It's kinda like the ol'...I can call my momma whatever I want, but you talk shit about her and it's on. :)

And I'm in my office in Piketon right now looking out the window at the truck that's driven by one of our nurses. She's a cute little thing in her 20's, drives a giant black pickup with the BIGGEST tires you've ever seen. And across the front window in pink vinyl script letters that she had custom made, reads "Country Bumpkin" :)

But I totally get your point Som. I'm surprised hillbilly isn't too gender specific. I feel that men are being degraded and it should be hillpersons. ;)

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somertimeoh
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Cookie wrote >>

somertimeoh wrote >>
So I guess in the berdawn hierarchy of oppressive language pussies > hillbillies. Fine, whatever, but at least acknowledge that there's some hypocrisy there. That is all.

It's not a hierarchy. There is a different context in using a word to describe yourself than there is to using a word to describe someone else. Surely you see the difference between calling yourself white trash and somebody else calling you white trash, especially somebody that doesn't know you and intends it to be an insult.

If that's what happened I would agree with you, but it's not.

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jimbach
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osulew wrote >>

Manatee wrote >>
I don't equate hillbilly with Southerner, I equate it with Appalachian. I thought berdawn was just pointing out our local euphemisms for things. Most people around here outside of the cities and suburbs refer to themselves as hillbillies on a common and unironic basis. Many of them are even proud of it.
I know lots of really awesome hillbillies, and a few real a-holes. I also know a lot of really smart hillbillies.
It's really interesting being considered a liberal hippie way out here in staunch Mountain Dew/Marlboro/uber-conservative country. Leads to a lot of unusual conversations.
Most hillbilly English is derived from Elizabethan English, or older, as well as Scottish. Many hillbilly turns of phrase can be found in plays by Shakespeare.

Yeah. Hillbilly generally = Appalachian residents living in mountainous areas. Although my great-grandmother and great-grandfather came from "the holler" in some nameless town in Kentucky. They still called themselves "old hillbillies"
Shouldn't they have been "hollerbillies?" Is there such a thing?

Hillbillies also hail from the Ozarks.

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osulew
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jimbach wrote >>

osulew wrote >>

Manatee wrote >>
I don't equate hillbilly with Southerner, I equate it with Appalachian. I thought berdawn was just pointing out our local euphemisms for things. Most people around here outside of the cities and suburbs refer to themselves as hillbillies on a common and unironic basis. Many of them are even proud of it.
I know lots of really awesome hillbillies, and a few real a-holes. I also know a lot of really smart hillbillies.
It's really interesting being considered a liberal hippie way out here in staunch Mountain Dew/Marlboro/uber-conservative country. Leads to a lot of unusual conversations.
Most hillbilly English is derived from Elizabethan English, or older, as well as Scottish. Many hillbilly turns of phrase can be found in plays by Shakespeare.

Yeah. Hillbilly generally = Appalachian residents living in mountainous areas. Although my great-grandmother and great-grandfather came from "the holler" in some nameless town in Kentucky. They still called themselves "old hillbillies"
Shouldn't they have been "hollerbillies?" Is there such a thing?

Hillbillies also hail from the Ozarks.

According to good ol wikipedia, the Ozarks were settled by Southern Appalachians, so I guess that would make sense.
I also learned that the Ozarks is the home of Knob Lick Mountain. That makes me giggle almost as much as driving into Kentucky and seeing Big Bone Lick state park right by Beaver Lick. Equal opportunity lickers those Kentuckians. :)

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ChrisSunami
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somertimeoh wrote >>

Cookie wrote >>

somertimeoh wrote >>
So I guess in the berdawn hierarchy of oppressive language pussies > hillbillies. Fine, whatever, but at least acknowledge that there's some hypocrisy there. That is all.

It's not a hierarchy. There is a different context in using a word to describe yourself than there is to using a word to describe someone else. Surely you see the difference between calling yourself white trash and somebody else calling you white trash, especially somebody that doesn't know you and intends it to be an insult.

If that's what happened I would agree with you, but it's not.

If I've read the thread correctly, Berdawn self-identifies as a "hillbilly", or at least as part of the group tagged as "hillbillies", so she's not mocking the group as an outsider.

I'm not a big fan of the whole reclaiming slurs movement myself but there is a difference between using a term from the inside or the outside of a group.

My family roots are actually in West Virginia as well --people often forget there are black Appalachians also, with much of the same culture and language.

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berdawn
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somertimeoh wrote >>

osulew wrote >>

Manatee wrote >>
I don't equate hillbilly with Southerner, I equate it with Appalachian. I thought berdawn was just pointing out our local euphemisms for things. Most people around here outside of the cities and suburbs refer to themselves as hillbillies on a common and unironic basis. Many of them are even proud of it.
I know lots of really awesome hillbillies, and a few real a-holes. I also know a lot of really smart hillbillies.
It's really interesting being considered a liberal hippie way out here in staunch Mountain Dew/Marlboro/uber-conservative country. Leads to a lot of unusual conversations.
Most hillbilly English is derived from Elizabethan English, or older, as well as Scottish. Many hillbilly turns of phrase can be found in plays by Shakespeare.

Yeah. Hillbilly generally = Appalachian residents living in mountainous areas. Although my great-grandmother and great-grandfather came from "the holler" in some nameless town in Kentucky. They still called themselves "old hillbillies"
Shouldn't they have been "hollerbillies?" Is there such a thing?

It's offensive to SOMEONE and that was my point. I just think if you're going to be a public crusader against oppressive language, why pick and choose? Hillbilly, redneck, hayseed, yokel, bumpkin, etc. are all pretty interchangeable for "people who grew up or live in in the sticks".

I am sorry if I offended you. I don't find hillbilly to be pejorative, especially if applying to a discussion about Appalachians (rather than code or as a more broad-based "rural" insult)

Posted 1 year ago #