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Started 2 years ago by scooby3r
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scooby3r
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I know I am supposed to be forgiving and support the redemption of those who have made mistakes in the past. I realize that there are many other current and past NFL players carrying felony histories. I know it can be considered pety to carry such a grudge against a total stranger.

Having said all of that, I would cheer with glee if Michael Vick get's his butt handed to him repeatedly upon his return to the NFL, and I will cheer wildly for any and every opposing player to make him look bad or hurt him on the field.

I love dogs, in case you couldn't guess.

Posted 2 years ago #
osulew
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Michael Vick can and should suck it. I hope he gets his skull smashed in.

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osulew wrote >>
Michael Vick can and should suck it. I hope he gets his skull smashed in.

Only thing to add to that: "Slowly".

Posted 2 years ago #
lifeliberty
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So...are you people all saying you don't believe in the American Criminal Justice System?
He paid his debt to society, right?
;)

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Oddly enoughÃ¢â‚¬Â¦i think a couple years in prison would make anyone rethink the course of action that got them there, especially in his case. So for some reason, it doesn't bother me that he's going to be playing football again. I think there should be a lifetime restraining order keeping him away from dogs though. and if he were ever to run a dogfighting ring again, he should get a death sentence.

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Unfortunately, animal rights is not on the minds of NFL owners, and probably not heavily on the minds of the opposing defense. That said, perhaps PETA should slip Ray Lewis/Bob Sanders/___ _____ some cash under the table for a late hit.

There is so much activity going on with pro athletes under the surface, that I think simply attacking Vick is misguided. When people make more money than they can possibly spend, their lives can get out of control pretty quickly. Not to say that all pro athletes live like idiots, they don't, but there are a lot of young men (primarily) who are groomed and coddled for a certain lifestyle that most of us have no category for. I am not excusing Vick by any means, but the league, and other leagues turn their heads as long as it means money is coming in. Unless the law gets involved, they have extremely low standards for their employees (the athletes).

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osulew
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I should clarify...
I don't care one bit about him playing football or soccer or cricket or competitive checkers.
But I stand by my previous statement.

Posted 2 years ago #
hivner1
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We are all aware that dog fighting is a HUGE black market industry, even in the innocent old Cbus, right?

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scooby3r
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lifeliberty wrote >>
So...are you people all saying you don't believe in the American Criminal Justice System?
He paid his debt to society, right?
;)

It is perfectly logical and reasonable to believe that he has paid his debt to society, and to believe so is to be a constructive, positive-minded citizen. In this case, I would sooner lean towards mob justice.

Maybe if he had led a cat-fighting ring, I could forgive him...

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Is it official yet that Philadelphia signed him? I hope they get the record low attendance they deserve this season if so and the whole city deserves to get a black eye for this. I cannot believe their pr excuse is that they will use him to give talks about animal rights. It's absolutely disgusting.

Posted 2 years ago #
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blammo wrote >>
Oddly enoughÃ¢â‚¬Â¦i think a couple years in prison would make anyone rethink the course of action that got them there, especially in his case. So for some reason, it doesn't bother me that he's going to be playing football again. I think there should be a lifetime restraining order keeping him away from dogs though. and if he were ever to run a dogfighting ring again, he should get a death sentence.

+1 to most of that blammo..

I also have to wonder what kind of counseling he received.. I would hope he had loads..

Someone mentioned "debt to society". Does anyone know what kind of community service (if any) was required under the terms of his sentencing?

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osulew
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hivner1 wrote >>
When people make more money than they can possibly spend, their lives can get out of control pretty quickly.

I'm glad I'll never get rich so I don't turn into a ridiculous, greedy, cruel, dickface.

Posted 2 years ago #
osulew
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OMG scooby is that your dog in that pic?
What is it? I'm dying. It makes me wanna squeeze the crap outta my computer monitor and babble like a doofus.

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hivner1 wrote >>
Unfortunately, animal rights is not on the minds of NFL owners, and probably not heavily on the minds of the opposing defense. That said, perhaps PETA should slip Ray Lewis/Bob Sanders/___ _____ some cash under the table for a late hit.
There is so much activity going on with pro athletes under the surface, that I think simply attacking Vick is misguided. When people make more money than they can possibly spend, their lives can get out of control pretty quickly. Not to say that all pro athletes live like idiots, they don't, but there are a lot of young men (primarily) who are groomed and coddled for a certain lifestyle that most of us have no category for. I am not excusing Vick by any means, but the league, and other leagues turn their heads as long as it means money is coming in. Unless the law gets involved, they have extremely low standards for their employees (the athletes).

You make a good point, and I think it shows a need for society to provide guidelines for acceptable behavior. In the case of professional sports, the players ultimately answer to the fans and sponsors, who indirectly pay their salaries. If things go bad enough for Vick, maybe the next kid thrown into the crazy situation of instant fortune and fame will stop short of doing something immoral because of Vick's example.

i.e. "No man, I don't want to be the next Michael Vick."

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Tigertree wrote >>
Is it official yet that Philadelphia signed him? I hope they get the record low attendance they deserve this season if so and the whole city deserves to get a black eye for this. I cannot believe their pr excuse is that they will use him to give talks about animal rights. It's absolutely disgusting.

I don't know if you know much about football, or Eagles fans, but I can almost promise, those people are more than happy to take him.

That is a city that cares about winning first. Period.

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That's my bulldog Azalea when she was a puppy. Be careful, you can guess what bulldogs do when you squeeze them too hard. stinky...

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Tigertree
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I think a crushed skull is unlikely but we can at least hope for a spinal cord injury

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scooby3r wrote >>
That's my bulldog Azalea when she was a puppy. Be careful, you can guess what bulldogs do when you squeeze them too hard. stinky...

I have a french one. If english ones smell the same, you have my fullest sympathy.

Posted 2 years ago #
osulew
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Daz wrote >>

scooby3r wrote >>
That's my bulldog Azalea when she was a puppy. Be careful, you can guess what bulldogs do when you squeeze them too hard. stinky...

I have a french one. If english ones smell the same, you have my fullest sympathy.

I wanna squeeze your dog too Daz...stoopid cute.

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hivner1
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Chances are, Vick knew about dog fighting from a very early age.

Vick is second of four children (including older sister Christina ("Niki") and younger siblings Marcus and Courtney) born in Newport News, Virginia, to Brenda Vick and Michael Boddie, then unmarried teenagers.[2] His mother worked two jobs, obtained some public financial assistance, and had help from her parents, while his father worked long hours in the shipyards as a sandblaster and spray-painter.[3] They were married when Michael was about five years old, but the children elected to continue to use their "Vick" surname. The family lived in the "Ridley Circle Homes," a public housing project in a financially depressed and crime-ridden neighborhood located in the East End section of the port city. It is an area known in hip hop culture by the slang names "Bad News" or "Bad Newz" according to the Urban Dictionary. A 2007 newspaper article published in the Richmond Times-Dispatch noted "not much changed" by observations of local people almost ten years after Michael Vick left. One resident said that there were drug dealing, drive-by shootings and other killings in the neighborhood, then suggested that sports were a way out and a dream for many.[4]
In a 2001 interview, Vick told the Newport News Daily Press that when he was 10 or 11, "I would go fishing even if the fish weren't biting, just to get out of there" and away from the violence and stress of daily life in the projects. Even though the area is, by all accounts, troubled, several people interviewed did not believe that dog fighting was a local activity.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Vick

Growing up, I knew some guys who stole purebread rotweilers and pitbulls for crazy money. Again, in no way, shape or form am I justifying this activity- but it is hand-in-hand with inner city drug trafficking and prostitution. If anything, the Vick case is helpful because of all the attention given to a less known crime that has flown under the radar for a long time.

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