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agreed, big +1 to that .... now lets see if anything comes out of it
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Out of the Closet - Planned Development at 5th & High
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cheap
Westgate
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Analogue Kid
Olentangy West
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cheap said:
i know what's going to come out of this.some people are going to be spending an assload of money on attorney fees if these people keep getting messed with.
they sue everybody
I mean they can sue, but there are long standing precedents for architectural standards. Just look at Dublin, do you think every single company that built a building there in the last 30 years happily went along with their requirements of stone and earth tones?
If they want to build a utilitarian looking structure, they needed to pick a different area of town.
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Flyairbird
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The letter written by John Angelo was excellent until the last line. OTHER DEVELOPERS. After reviewing the prior posts, and reading all of the available review board notes, I smell conflicts of interest at work here just like on the UARB board. This is how local boards work. I had lived all over the country and in Columbus for the past ten years , and I have seen that unless the locals get their palms greased , many projects are DOA. It happens everywhere. This dispute has nothing to do about HIV/AIDS or LGBT issues as this community is as concerned and active more than some communities around the country are. However, lets call a spade a spade here. There are some genuiely concerned folks in these groups, however, I see something else at work.
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surber17
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Flyairbird said:
The letter written by John Angelo was excellent until the last line. OTHER DEVELOPERS. After reviewing the prior posts, and reading all of the available review board notes, I smell conflicts of interest at work here just like on the UARB board. This is how local boards work. I had lived all over the country and in Columbus for the past ten years , and I have seen that unless the locals get their palms greased , many projects are DOA. It happens everywhere. This dispute has nothing to do about HIV/AIDS or LGBT issues as this community is as concerned and active more than some communities around the country are. However, lets call a spade a spade here. There are some genuiely concerned folks in these groups, however, I see something else at work.I have to 100% disagree in this case (I do agree that you are correct in a lot of other cases). "Other developers" was brought up because there are other projects going on right now where developers have collaborated. If Out of the Closet can't afford a building that is appropriate to that corner, maybe they could partner with a developer to put in a building everyone will enjoy.
Posted 11 months ago # -
catnfiddle
Peeghaven
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Hoping for the best! I love what they are offering to the community. Right now, it's mostly a matter of external aesthetics.
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joshlapp
Short North
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The level of condescension coming from the Out of the Closet people is highly annoying and frustrating:
“We are not going to be run off,” Weinstein said, “and I expected since we were bringing jobs and a much-needed service to the area that the red carpet would have been rolled out.”
Posted 11 months ago # -
jbcmh81
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joshlapp said:
The level of condescension coming from the Out of the Closet people is highly annoying and frustrating:“We are not going to be run off,” Weinstein said, “and I expected since we were bringing jobs and a much-needed service to the area that the red carpet would have been rolled out.”
I get the overwhelming impression he sees Columbus and Ohio as just failed Rust Belt desperate for a California savior. He expected a lot of people to roll over and treat mediocre development with the key to the city.
Posted 11 months ago # -
jimbach
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I know it's a stereotype that people who live on one or the other coast see everything and everyone in between as nothing but a homogeneous blog of strip malls, chain restaurants, and narrow-minded buffoons, but Mr. Weinstein's statements seem to support that stereotype. Sad.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Pablo
Crestview Addition
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joshlapp said:
“We are not going to be run off,” Weinstein said, “and I expected since we were bringing jobs and a much-needed service to the area that the red carpet would have been rolled out.”People might be more excited for jobs in California (11% unemployment) and that statement might play better there. But here in Columbus the rate is 6.2%. Jobs are always welcome but, yeah, he sounds like a condescending prick with statements like that...
Posted 11 months ago # -
myliftkk
Columbus, OH
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jimbach said:
I know it's a stereotype that people who live on one or the other coast see everything and everyone in between as nothing but a homogeneous blog of strip malls, chain restaurants, and narrow-minded buffoons, but Mr. Weinstein's statements seem to support that stereotype. Sad.It at least appears he subscribes to it.
Problem for him is, no one, LGBT or otherwise is subscribing to his building vision for that corner.
Posted 11 months ago # -
jpizzow
Above the American Apparel building
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joshlapp said:
The level of condescension coming from the Out of the Closet people is highly annoying and frustrating:“We are not going to be run off,” Weinstein said, “and I expected since we were bringing jobs and a much-needed service to the area that the red carpet would have been rolled out.”
So that makes it ok to build something that does not fit in with the neighborhood at all. I guess I'm not understanding why this concept is so hard to understand. I'm beginning to wander how much market research they actually conducted in the Short North and surrounding areas before and after choosing this site. It did seem kind of odd to me right off the bat.
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mrpoppinzs
Arena District
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I think they WANT it to stick out. They want people to hear about it and they want people to notice it. I think making money off the thrift is only a portion of the revenue, I think they want their rich donors to hear about about how another outreach has been planted and feel that their money is going somewhere. To get noticed architecturally you either spend $$$ on great design or practically nothing on a gaudy decorated shed.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted 11 months ago # -
groundrules
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jimbach said:
An artist's rendering of the newly-proposed building would have been nice, but obviously not something the Dispatch nor AHF deemed important.Maybe you're just gonna have to wait a minute:
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The Los Angeles-based AIDS Healthcare Foundation will present its new plans before the University Area Review Board on Thursday.Posted 11 months ago #
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