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Started 4 months ago by lazyfish
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lazyfish

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Hooray!

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Ohio State To Require Sophomores To Live On Campus
By: Associated Press | NBC4
Published: January 14, 2013

Ohio State University is aiming to improve graduation and retention rates with a new rule requiring sophomore students to live on campus. The Dayton Daily News reports that the university is set to become the largest college in the country to require sophomores to live on campus. The initiative is slated to take effect in fall 2016.

READ MORE: http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2013/jan/14/ohio-state-require-sophomores-live-campus-ar-1312045/

Posted 4 months ago #
bucki12
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fall 2016

Posted 4 months ago #
Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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I didn't realize this wasn't already a done deal. It's been discussed for over four years now, and OSU has already been expanding dorm facilities rapidly to accomodate an increase in students living on campus...

http://www.columbusunderground.com/landlords-hurt-if-sophomores-stay-in-dorms

http://www.columbusunderground.com/holiday-inn-on-lane-ave-to-become-osu-dorms

http://www.columbusunderground.com/north-residential-district-plan-approved-at-osu

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lazyfish

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bucki12 said:
fall 2016

Still great news, not sure if it is the recession or higher admission standards but campus has been oddly peaceful most weekend, granted if you are looking for trouble it is usually a short walk away.

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howatzer

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academics? student life experience? the main purpose of OSU should be to generate revenue for absentee landlords. This is a travesty. They will have no choice but to rent to drug dealers and child molesters.

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rory
Weinland Park
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howatzer said:
academics? student life experience? the main purpose of OSU should be to generate revenue for absentee landlords. This is a travesty. They will have no choice but to rent to drug dealers and child molesters.

And poor people of color. That's the implicit absentee landlord threat unless they can continue to do whatever they want. Because why would we (landlords) make apartments and houses amenable to a wider demographic in the University District?

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peter
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I'm a campus landlord and I welcome this change.

My business partner wrote a detailed analysis of this topic on our website:

http://rlpartnersllc.com/rl-partners/2012/09/ohio-state-sophomores-in-dorms-numbers-and-analysis

Bottom line: We do not anticipate a significant decrease (if any) in the demand for quality, well-priced off-campus housing.

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buckette13

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I also don't think it will change much. The area will continue to be a haven for the student age demographic whether in school or not. Even $2k for a house is cheap if split 6 or more ways - and that is what the area is known for. My brother went to CCAD and he lived on 11th.

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rory
Weinland Park
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I agree that the quality well-priced aspect is the key. I have my doubts about the 10 person group homes that are not in close proximity to campus. It's not an attractive lifestyle for someone who is not in that 18-20 age range.

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mrpoppinzs
Arena District
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I think part of the problem is that things that are tolerated in the University District (crazy parties, lots of trash, sun bathing on porch roofs, passing out on front lawns, upholstered lawn furniture, etc) would not be in other neighborhoods. Who would want to live near that?

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Snarf
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mrpoppinzs said:
I think part of the problem is that things that are tolerated in the University District (crazy parties, lots of trash, sun bathing on porch roofs, passing out on front lawns, upholstered lawn furniture, etc) would not be in other neighborhoods. Who would want to live near that?

ME ME!

Posted 4 months ago #
rory
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mrpoppinzs said:
I think part of the problem is that things that are tolerated in the University District (crazy parties, lots of trash, sun bathing on porch roofs, passing out on front lawns, upholstered lawn furniture, etc) would not be in other neighborhoods. Who would want to live near that?

And that's exactly what one large campus landlord asked me when I asked whether he would consider making his properties attractive to a wider audience. Who would live in that? And it's true that it wouldn't fly anywhere else in the city. And it's because the University Area Commission is completely complicit while the University Area Review Board keeps approving student group homes. The only thing that will help is moving the students to campus and let the real estate market sort it out. As far as I'm concerned campus landlords killed their own golden goose.

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mrpoppinzs
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The problem is, they are not moving 'all the students' or even anywhere near the majority of them. The problem isn't just student packing, but creating or allowing for a student 'lifestyle community'. Have you been to PJ's Grill at 2am? If Pinocchio lived in the UD he would be transformed into a donkey in days...

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Neil Jaye

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I had no idea it wasn’t that way already. I went to Ohio U. and they always had –- or at least in the 90’s when I was there -- a requirement that all freshmen and sophomores live on campus. You could move into Greek housing or off-campus sophomore year through petitions, but it wasn’t easy.

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rory
Weinland Park
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That's all true. I guess my focus has been narrower by trying convince the University Area Review Board and the University Area Commission not to spread the student infrastructure of group homes to Weinland Park. The issue has been that neither body thinks that the student lifestyle is a problem. Consequently, as far as they're concerned there's really no reason to do anything differently than they have done for past twenty years. And that's the real problem is that the powers that be don't think that there is a problem with trash, parking or riots in the University District. Maybe it's time for a UAC 2:00 A.M. outing to P.J's?

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mrpoppinzs
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@Neil Jaye

Sophmores have been required to live on campus for decades, it just hasn't been enforced as OSU didn't have the dorm space.

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peter
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I think part of the problem is that things that are tolerated in the University District (crazy parties, lots of trash, sun bathing on porch roofs, passing out on front lawns, upholstered lawn furniture, etc) would not be in other neighborhoods. Who would want to live near that?

That's kind of a strange way to phrase that. Those things are not "tolerated" - they are the activities that the tenants who live in those homes choose to participate in, and they are well within their rights to do so. Neither the landlord nor the police would be permitted, much less obligated, to stop them. Tenants are afforded certain rights of enjoyment (of their home) under Ohio law, and you don't get to trample on those just because you don't like them or their demographic. Unless of course those activities become illegal (or loud enough to interfere with a neighbor tenant or homeowner's quiet enjoyment of his own home) - in which case the police would handle it.

You may not like the things students like to do in their free time, but the landlords don't really have anything to do with that. Not that campus landlords aren't guilty of any number of other transgressions though!

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bucki12
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^ how many sunbathers do you reckon those porch roofs were designed for?

on a side note:

http://wosu.org/2012/news/2005/08/29/columbus-begins-citations-for-porch-couches/

littering, public intoxication and noise complaints are probably as much common sense as they are municipal infractions.

Posted 4 months ago #
vestanpance
Harrison West/at work OSU
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campus area might look scummy but even with last years "crime spree" I feel a hell of a lot safer walking around that neighborhood than some close by others. I'd rather the cops focus on that.

porch couches > crack dealers

let them live.

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labi
Weinland Park
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peter said:
Neither the landlord nor the police would be permitted, much less obligated, to stop them.

Oh, please. Of course landlords are "permitted" to stop bad behavior of their tenants. I am a landlord and because I care about the effect of my rental on its neighbors there's a clause in my lease that states that tenants can be evicted if they disturb the neighbors. I choose tenants who I believe are unlikely to cause problems of that kind, and I'm fully prepared to evict tenants who did end up causing those problems.

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