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gramarye
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I much prefer mail-in voting as well, and I wish they'd stop referring to it as "absentee" balloting, eliminating the suggestion that it should be just for those absent from the state.

It's not just because I don't have to waste a significant portion of a workday standing in line. It's because I can have the Web sites of the down-ballot candidates who seldom get much attention open as I'm voting. I can fill it out over the course of several days, generally later in the evening when I have a little more free time.

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myliftkk
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More early voting news:

An Ohio GOP election official who voted against the weekend voting rules that enabled thousands to cast ballots in the 2008 election said Sunday that he did not think that the state's early voting procedures should accommodate African-Americans.

"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban -- read African-American -- voter-turnout machine," Doug Priesse said in an email to the Columbus Dispatch Sunday. "Let's be fair and reasonable."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/doug-priesse-ohio-early-voting-_n_1807434.html

So allowing weekend voting is contorting how exactly? Obviously Dems support weekend voting across all 88 counties, so is this anything other than naked disenfranchisement?

It appears the media has finally started latching onto this story, as I saw there were entire segments devoted to it over the last couple of days.

Posted 9 months ago #
geoyui
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Interesting occurrence down in TN.

96 year old woman who voted during jim crow era denied a photo ID

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Graybeak
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myliftkk said:
More early voting news:

An Ohio GOP election official who voted against the weekend voting rules that enabled thousands to cast ballots in the 2008 election said Sunday that he did not think that the state's early voting procedures should accommodate African-Americans.

"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban -- read African-American -- voter-turnout machine," Doug Priesse said in an email to the Columbus Dispatch Sunday. "Let's be fair and reasonable."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/doug-priesse-ohio-early-voting-_n_1807434.html

So allowing weekend voting is contorting how exactly? Obviously Dems support weekend voting across all 88 counties, so is this anything other than naked disenfranchisement?

It appears the media has finally started latching onto this story, as I saw there were entire segments devoted to it over the last couple of days.

The second line of the quote that has been left out makes it even better. Shows up on the dispatch site.

“I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine,” said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. “Let’s be fair and reasonable.”

He called claims of unfairness by Ohio Democratic Chairman Chris Redfern and others “bullshit. Quote me!”

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geoyui said:
Interesting occurrence down in TN.

96 year old woman who voted during jim crow era denied a photo ID

Outdated.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct/21/96-year-old-dorothy-cooper-finally-gets-id-vote/

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geoyui
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rus said:
Outdated.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct/21/96-year-old-dorothy-cooper-finally-gets-id-vote/

just a tad old, but glad nonetheless that she can vote.

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I think Doug Priesse is a power hungry douche.

The rest, however, is much ado about nothing. Ohio makes it easy to vote early. You can vote 8:00-7:00 M-F starting Oct 2nd, and you can always request an absentee ballot, with no reason required (unlike some states).

16 states don't have any early voting period.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/pa-voter-id_n_1795741.html

A plaintiff in a lawsuit seeking to overturn Pennsylvania's tough new voter identification law has received the state-issued photo ID card necessary to vote, despite saying she'd been rejected for years because she lacked appropriate documentation to receive the card.

PennDOT's licensing bureau director Janet Dolan said Friday that clerks are able to make exceptions to the document requirements and work with applicants.

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myliftkk
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ColumbusTime said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/pa-voter-id_n_1795741.html

A plaintiff in a lawsuit seeking to overturn Pennsylvania's tough new voter identification law has received the state-issued photo ID card necessary to vote, despite saying she'd been rejected for years because she lacked appropriate documentation to receive the card.

PennDOT's licensing bureau director Janet Dolan said Friday that clerks are able to make exceptions to the document requirements and work with applicants.

Well now, it would be to the current state's administration to facilitate her getting an id, wouldn't it?

That's really what you're going to hat your conservative hat on?

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/karoli/shameless-republican-brags-about-voter-id-w

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

Everyone knows it's some racist bullshit (even while it's relative impact on numerics will diminish over the long haul) about trying to win by discouraging participation.

Posted 9 months ago #
ColumbusTime

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I was merely pointing out that it isn't impossible to get an ID.

It isn't racist bs, but feel free to keep pretending it is. Its about having basic controls in place to ensure a fair process.

Posted 9 months ago #
Twixlen
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ColumbusTime said:
I was merely pointing out that it isn't impossible to get an ID.

It isn't racist bs, but feel free to keep pretending it is. Its about having basic controls in place to ensure a fair process.

Sure, it's not racist at all.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/08/quote-day-early-voting-bad-idea-because-it-makes-it-easier-blacks-vote

From Doug Preisse, chairman of the Franklin County Republican Party and a member of the elections board, on the reason he opposes extended voting hours in Columbus:

I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine.

Points for honesty, I guess. Via Rick Hasen.

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ColumbusTime

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It isn't that hard to get an ID and isn't unreasonable that in order to vote, you have some sort of process to make sure everyone can only vote once, and is who they say they are.

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Twixlen said:
Sure, it's not racist at all.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/08/quote-day-early-voting-bad-idea-because-it-makes-it-easier-blacks-vote

From Doug Preisse, chairman of the Franklin County Republican Party and a member of the elections board, on the reason he opposes extended voting hours in Columbus:

I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine.

Points for honesty, I guess. Via Rick Hasen.

Yeah, because not favoring one group means you're racist against that group.

*eye roll*

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Twixlen
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rus said:
Yeah, because not favoring one group means you're racist against that group.

*eye roll*

Ugh rus. I'm sorry that you don't get why this is a problem. I can assure you, the black folks I know are pretty fired up over this admission that the changes in the hours are a deliberate attempt to suppress their vote.

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Twixlen said:
Ugh rus. I'm sorry that you don't get why this is a problem. I can assure you, the black folks I know are pretty fired up over this admission that the changes in the hours are a deliberate attempt to suppress their vote.

And I'm sorry that you still categorize people by skin tone and demand different skin tones be treated differently.

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Snarf
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ColumbusTime said:
It isn't that hard to get an ID and isn't unreasonable that in order to vote, you have some sort of process to make sure everyone can only vote once, and is who they say they are.

Seriously. What is the argument against being made to have an ID to vote? It only makes sense to me. No ID? Fuck your vote.

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Twixlen
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rus said:
And I'm sorry that you still categorize people by skin tone and demand different skin tones be treated differently.

And I'm sorry that you don't understand that people are actually treated differently because of their skin tone, maybe not by you, but by much of the rest of the country. There's actually a great study that was done that shows how much of this fear mongering against Obama is directly tied to the fact that he's black - having nothing to do with his politics.

I don't think people should be treated differently - but I think equality is a real thing. And what's happening in Ohio with the voting hours is one example of how equality for all people to vote is getting rolled right back. I'm just glad that this fellow finally admitted out loud what they were trying to do - I hope it rings a bell in the DOJ that there's a damn problem here.

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Twixlen said:
And what's happening in Ohio with the voting hours is one example of how equality for all people to vote is getting rolled right back.

Yeah, because having the same polling place hours throughout the state regardless of the racial composition of the individual polling locations is "rolling back voting rights".

Right.

Posted 9 months ago #
Snarf
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The constant sarcastic statement of the other position followed by "Right" or "Gotcha" has been PLAYED THE FUCK OUT ALREADY.

Find some more creative jabs to argue or just be brutal.

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Twixlen
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rus said:
Yeah, because having the same polling place hours throughout the state regardless of the racial composition of the individual polling locations is "rolling back voting rights".

Right.

The early voting hours were originally extended because there was understanding that not everyone works the sort of job where it's possible to hop out for an hour or so and go vote, or possible to go before or after work. Eliminating that option does indeed suppress those folks ability to vote. I am not for suppressing anyone's ability to vote - regardless of how they vote. I think what's happening in PA, and here (there was also the redistricting ridiculousness) is incredibly unamerican.

The voter ID fraud thing is a chimera - talk about things that a group is using to distract people from issues...

Posted 9 months ago #