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What's in Obama's stimulus plan
By Annalyn Censky and Charles Riley
September 8, 2011: 9:39 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- President Obama unveiled a stimulus plan Thursday night that he says will boost hiring and provide a jolt to the stalled economy if it becomes law.

A mix of $253 billion in tax cuts and $194 billion in new spending, the total bill for the plan is $447 billion. Given staunch Republican opposition to most new spending, the measure has almost no chance of passing the House in its current form.

READ MORE: http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/08/news/economy/obama_stimulus_plan/index.htm?iid=HP_LN

Posted 8 months ago #
Anidem
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I wonder how many of the unemployed are still unemployed because companies won't hire them? I've been hearing and reading a lot about this of late. Supposedly there is a bill on the table that would make it discriminatory to not hire someone who is unemployed. This is especially concerning to me as my husband now will be unemployed at the end of this month. I'm scared crapless that if he doesn't find new employment while he is still currently employed he will never find employment.

H.R.2501(S. 1471) - Fair Employment Opportunity Act of 2011

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lifeontwowheels
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Anidem said:
I wonder how many of the unemployed are still unemployed because companies won't hire them? I've been hearing and reading a lot about this of late. Supposedly there is a bill on the table that would make it discriminatory to not hire someone who is unemployed. This is especially concerning to me as my husband now will be unemployed at the end of this month. I'm scared crapless that if he doesn't find new employment while he is still currently employed he will never find employment.

H.R.2501(S. 1471) - Fair Employment Opportunity Act of 2011

Ever stop to think it may be more than just the fact they are unemployed? If you have 500 people applying for 3 positions, the company has the opportunity to pick the best out of those 500. If your qualifications don't rise to meet those expectations, sorry but you are SOL.

Posted 8 months ago #
JonMyers
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Anyone else cynical on this "jobs creation" plan? I haven't seen much if anything in his plan, which will position the US for economic growth and make us more economically competitive.

More of the same shit. It's not working.

Posted 8 months ago #
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lifeontwowheels said:
Ever stop to think it may be more than just the fact they are unemployed? If you have 500 people applying for 3 positions, the company has the opportunity to pick the best out of those 500. If your qualifications don't rise to meet those expectations, sorry but you are SOL.

no, really, there are companies who have established an "unemployed need not apply" policy. Google it, it's an actual issue.

NY times article

Posted 8 months ago #
Anidem
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lifeontwowheels said:
Ever stop to think it may be more than just the fact they are unemployed? If you have 500 people applying for 3 positions, the company has the opportunity to pick the best out of those 500. If your qualifications don't rise to meet those expectations, sorry but you are SOL.

Where we are it's a little more open than Columbus in this field but if they're using an online program only per their policies where it spits out the resume because of unemployment then, yes, we are SOL, after this month. This stuff's been in the papers lately- Companies still looking for qualified employees even after the qualified unemployed applied for the job. This bill is trying to address the issue that many people have been laid off due to the economy and not because of job performance, but they're being automatically passed over either online or through their human resources.

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bman
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JonMyers said:
Anyone else cynical on this "jobs creation" plan? I haven't seen much if anything in his plan, which will position the US for economic growth and make us more economically competitive.

More of the same shit. It's not working.

what would u rather have heard!

Posted 8 months ago #
lifeontwowheels
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Rockmastermike said:
no, really, there are companies who have established an "unemployed need not apply" policy. Google it, it's an actual issue.

NY times article

Fair enough

Posted 8 months ago #
Roland
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JonMyers said:
Anyone else cynical on this "jobs creation" plan? I haven't seen much if anything in his plan, which will position the US for economic growth and make us more economically competitive.

More of the same shit. It's not working.

I'm with ya on this one. I think it's just a setup for his re-election campaign. Putting republicans in a position where they either give him a political victory or fight the "Americans Jobs Act."

What a circus.

Posted 8 months ago #
bman
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Roland said:
I'm with ya on this one. I think it's just a setup for his re-election campaign. Putting republicans in a position where they either give him a political victory or fight the "Americans Jobs Act."

What a circus.

So you say do nothing ...

Posted 8 months ago #
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This plan is too small and not ambitious enough. It's terribly difficult to communicate to hugely successful men like senators and the president just how awful the employment situation is right now. I think the government should being starting a new jobs initiative about once a month until they find something that works. I'm glad they're finally doing something, but it should be viewed as nothing more than a starting point.

Posted 8 months ago #
Snarf
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Isn't constantly blaming bipartisanship, bipartisanship?

Posted 8 months ago #
joev
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To small to work, too big to pass. This is exactly the wrong time to focus on deficit reduction. We need a huge stimulus plan focused completely on building infrastructure.

Posted 8 months ago #
bman
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Snarf said:
Isn't constantly blaming bipartisanship, bipartisanship?

joev said:
To small to work, too big to pass. This is exactly the wrong time to focus on deficit reduction. We need a huge stimulus plan focused completely on building infrastructure.

joev said:
To small to work, too big to pass. This is exactly the wrong time to focus on deficit reduction. We need a huge stimulus plan focused completely on building infrastructure.

I agree ... Tea party would rather see Americans suffer and defeat the President. I told people 3 years ago we would repeat the 1930's again and slip back into the depression again by not keeping our foot on the stimulus accelerator.

Posted 8 months ago #
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Because stimulus worked so well so far... shovel ready projects, green jobs, etc..

Posted 8 months ago #
groundrules

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rus said:
Because stimulus worked so well so far... shovel ready projects, green jobs, etc..

tough to say exactly how well it worked since we can't say exactly where we'd be without it. could be a lot worse.

Posted 8 months ago #
groundrules

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Roland said:
I'm with ya on this one. I think it's just a setup for his re-election campaign. Putting republicans in a position where they either give him a political victory or fight the "Americans Jobs Act."

What a circus.

it's almost like these politicians are playing politics! oh my!

seriously, tell me a single political issue in the last three months that hasn't been either oversimplified or over-exaggerated by the major player candidates for the sake of sound byte generation (taking precedence over problem solving).

Posted 8 months ago #
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groundrules said:
tough to say exactly how well it worked since we can't say exactly where we'd be without it. could be a lot worse.

I have this rock that keeps tigers away... so far, no tigers.

Posted 8 months ago #
somertimeoh
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rus said:
I have this rock that keeps tigers away... so far, no tigers.

Not true, there are economists who have shaped "no stimulus" models, it's just that "look where we aren't" isn't as newsworthy as "look at the pile of shit we're still in". Economists also say that the stimulus package wasn't nearly big enough to make the kind of immediate impact that was needed to stop the bleeding, but that anything bigger would have never passed so we got what we got. When the guys on the Hill start listening to the actual experts (not the ones paid to agree with them), we'll be so much better off. Why attorney's and "businessmen" think they know how to fix our economy than actual economists I'll never understand.

Posted 8 months ago #
groundrules

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rus said:
I have this rock that keeps tigers away... so far, no tigers.

a more apt analogy would be if there were tigers circling your camp, and then when you found your rock, they went away. Let's not forget- it wasn't government intervention that initiated the financial crises we've experienced over the last few years.

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