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DavidF wrote >>
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DavidF wrote >>
Once upon a time I had the naive belief that you were actually willing to engage in a give and take type of conversation. I see now it's more of a give and defame on your part.Oh please. I picked apart your arguments on private prisons and your well reasoned response was, in effect, "nuh-uh!".
You consider extremist positions "understandable" yet protest when someone else points out your "morality".puhlease. you never picked apart my argument. You never really addressed it. (Though I'm sure in your mind you did). I consider outrage and anger understandable given the extremist positions being forced upon us by the Kasich administration. I have not in this thread or in any other said that I found extremist positions to be understandable. If you can't do better than to continually make up things that people never said then do me a favor and just stop pretend responding.
You attribute extreme views to anyone who disagrees with you. You twist their words or outright invent things they supposedly said. You slur, defame and belittle others, then have the gall to be outraged when others do similar to you.
I've tried to have reasonable conversations with you, but at the end of the day, you are not amenable to reason. Unlike you, I have a verifiable history of being able to reach across ideological lines and make common ground with others, so you're attempts to label me an extremist are pathetic at best.
No, I don't attribute extremist views to anyone who disagrees with me.
I do read this as extremist, though:
DavidF wrote >>
I've attempted to restrain myself, but this is not a situation where restraint prevails. I don't doubt most conservatives are good people who are not malicious by nature, but that doesn't excuse the malicious nature of the programs you support. Good people, usually out of fear, have supported some of the most heinous acts in history. I gave years of my life to defend a system I've watched your ilk defame and attempt to destroy. Your conceptions of liberty would make a monarchist laugh. Your ideas of economic justice warm the hearts of plutocrats and autocrats the world over. Your ideas of social justice are to continually expand the definitions of the "them" who are a threat to "us."
Good intentions or not, rational arguments or not, there comes a time when it is no longer sufficient to accept your cries that you are not like one of the crazies who drive the ideology and policies of your party. Reason is the weakness of Democrats. It cannot stand up to the fear mongering and prejudice tweaking that is the heart and soul of Republican belief. Then, simply to add salt to our wounds, we are told by the very people who traffic in lies and division, that we need to constrain ourselves from engaging in the very same tactics that are used against us on a daily basis.
If you consider your opposition "the crazies" then there's no chance for meaningful, reasoned discussion.
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