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I have a feeling that there is already a post out there about this, but I can't find it. Anyway, I heard on NPR this morning about a building on Long that has been knocked down for a new condo complex to be built. Does anyone have any more info on this?
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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It's going to be at Long & 21st, done by CHP. I believe the land sale/transfer approval was handled at last night's City Council Meeting.
I was able to take a sneak peek at the renderings at CHP's offices a few days ago, but they're not ready to unveil them to the public yet. Will have more info posted as soon as I get the greenlight. ;)
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futureman
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surber17 wrote >>
I have a feeling that there is already a post out there about this, but I can't find it. Anyway, I heard on NPR this morning about a building on Long that has been knocked down for a new condo complex to be built. Does anyone have any more info on this?After looking at google maps it makes me wonder why they couldn't have used the empty lot across the street vs knocking down the existing building.
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jawjack187
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The building that was demolished was not historic, it was old. It was in disrepair and was unsafe because of that. It sat vacant for over 10 years. I think it would be good for those who care to walk the KLD and determine which structures that are vacant and/or abandoned that you would like to have saved. Identify them, buy them (or find someone with the resources to do so) and then rehab them and make them productive. Sure there are old buildings in every neighborhood. The alternative is, in the SN, if it is old, it probably isn't abandoned, and if it is, it certainly won't sit empty for over 10 years. Someone would consider it an investment, and do what it right to save it. We don;t have very many people willing to do thin in the KLD, and so these type of old properties (with little historic value other than their age) are left to sit and become havens for drugs, crime, or worse. I think we do need a plan, but a plan without resources is in vain.
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Leahy255
Upper Arlington
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Walker wrote >>
Here's three renderings so far, all of the new build.
The new build portion will contain 7 condo units while the building next door is being rehabbed and turned into 2 units.
More info coming soon...
I love the three-story concept, I've seen detached versions in the south, and it helps saves on land. They had courtyards and other things since they reduced land ussage.
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Columbusite
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jawjack187 wrote >>
The building that was demolished was not historic, it was old. It was in disrepair and was unsafe because of that. It sat vacant for over 10 years. I think it would be good for those who care to walk the KLD and determine which structures that are vacant and/or abandoned that you would like to have saved. Identify them, buy them (or find someone with the resources to do so) and then rehab them and make them productive. Sure there are old buildings in every neighborhood. The alternative is, in the SN, if it is old, it probably isn't abandoned, and if it is, it certainly won't sit empty for over 10 years. Someone would consider it an investment, and do what it right to save it. We don;t have very many people willing to do thin in the KLD, and so these type of old properties (with little historic value other than their age) are left to sit and become havens for drugs, crime, or worse. I think we do need a plan, but a plan without resources is in vain.Maybe you should ask yourself how the worst neighborhood, much worse than present-day KLD, which was full of ho-hum buildings in disrepair now doesn't have buildings sitting vacant for a decade and then bulldozed. If people with your position were in charge of the fate of Short North buildings back in the day it would look a lot more like Long in the KLD and not see much improvement. The wholesale demolition of so much of Long St means it has lost the perks of an intact urban environment and now requires lots of new builds to fill in the gaps. I'm glad there were enough people with the guts and the vision to invest in and turn around the dumpy old commercial buildings of no historic value that continue to stand in the Short North.
The question is: why are there so few of these kind of people now? I really don't know why our pool of moneyed urban pioneers basically dried up after the success of the Short North. Part of the answer lies in the fact that until you have enough of the right people with first-hand experience in an up-and-coming neighborhood like KLD you aren't going to see much progress because the only way you can see the potential of such an area is by being there yourself. Actually, since the Short North was on way to Downtown or OSU many were pretty much couldn't help but see the area, whereas others like this one has to make an effort to seek it out.
This new development along with the Whitney condos is OK, but for most developers this might as well be Linden or whatever other area name results in an immediate dismissal. The neighborhood association should also get everyone to focus on the handful of blocks of Long between Hamilton Park and 17th: this development is happening outside of the improving business corridor when there are quite literally a dozen empty grass lots sitting untouched near the new Lincoln Theatre, coffeeshops, and book store. Why is the city prioritizing this lot over those? Is there something I'm not getting?
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Walker
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Walker
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MichaelC wrote >>
Very interesting. Walker, do you know of an early timetable, or an estimate as to the expected cost?If they mirror the other development along 21st done by CHP (http://www.northofbroad.com) then they should be pretty affordable.
Waiting for the full details when I get a sit down interview with the folks in charge lined up. They're waiting on all of the approvals first. Probably in the next week or two.
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Columbusite
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Walker wrote >>
Columbusite wrote >>
The question is: why are there so few of these kind of people now? I really don't know why our pool of moneyed urban pioneers basically dried up after the success of the Short North.Uhm... A lot of them are still in the Short North.
So out of all of the new residents from other cities there aren't enough to join together and improve a block or two elsewhere? I don't find that very likely.
lilbit wrote >>
Why is the city prioritizing this lot over those? Is there something I'm not getting?
These are privately held properties. If the owners don't want to sell you can't do anything about it.
You're not the first to complain about it.What could we do to put pressure on owners and what have other cities done in this instance? The property owners of grass lots should at least be required to plant and maintain a garden on these lots and get fined if they don't until the lot is developed, just like owners of abandoned buildings need to keep their buildings up to code. Once they've reached $X in unpaid fines then the city could then take the property for their failure to comply in the maintenance of said lot. Of course, the owner of an unsightly empty lot could allow the neighborhood to plant and maintain the garden if he/she doesn't want to.
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Walker
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Columbusite wrote >>
So out of all of the new residents from other cities there aren't enough to join together and improve a block or two elsewhere? I don't find that very likely.Sure, there are plenty of people who are looking to revitalize neighborhoods. Probably moreso than there were in the Short North in the 80s. The "problem" is that they're now spread out between Weinland Park, King Lincoln, OTE, Merion Village, Hungarian Village, Franklinton, The Hilltop, Highland West, Old Oaks, Ganthers Place and at least a dozen other areas.
And I put "problem" in quotes because I really don't see that being a bad thing... it's just going to take longer than armchair/simcity urbanists want it to.
Anywa, if you think that the two decades spent transforming the Short North from 1980 to 2000 took any less than two decades, then I think you have distorted sense of time on how long neighborhood changes actually take.
Otherwise... buy a house and enjoy the ride. ;)
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