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Started 4 years ago by th0m
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More background here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality
Extreme example against-neutrality argument:
Columbus Underground, as a service provider, would have to guarantee access possibly to spammers, or even hackers, under neutrality legislation, and we don't want that. And the internet isn't inherently all that fair as it is, and we need to be able to disallow this sort of thing.
Extreme example for-neutrality argument:
Time Warner would possibly be able to charge you $5/mo more for priority access to Columbus Underground, or access at all, without legislation, and we don't want that. And the internet isn't inherently all that fair as it is, so we need to be able to allow this sort of thing.
Extremely neutral:
This is an over-hyped bunch of fooey.
Thoughts? Yet another polarizing red-blue issue, perhaps.

Posted 4 years ago #
gramarye
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I don't think CU is actually a "service provider." My understanding is that CU would be a "content provider."
Also, I'm pretty sure (sight unseen) that the legislation (if there is any) will be written in such a way that it exempts all uses that would be crimes under preexisting federal or state laws, so neither content providers nor service providers would be obliged to accommodate hackers, phishers, spammers, stalkers, child pornographers, human traffickers, identity thieves, people who talk on their cell phones and smoke while driving slowly in the fast lane, or similar evildoers.

Posted 4 years ago #
th0m
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You must be the one driving behind me all the time? :shock: :lol:
I dunno... I mean, we're really talking about coming up out of the network layer into the application layer, and that's where both CU and YouTube exist... at my job, I can get to CU, but I can't get to YouTube, but that's just sane corporate policy for the most part.
Yes, there was the concept of a common-carrier and who knows what else i didn't mean to single out certain terms... but i mean... if CU turned into this big p2p video conferencing site (anyone wanna help? :twisted: ) wouldn't your ISP want to throttle your participation if it became this big huge thing?
conversely, is it fair that my isp DOESN'T provide me with a PHPBB installation and 24x7 support, as in "why should CU get to have a forum just because they pay for a dedicated server?"
... really there are a billion of crazy arguments coming out of this whole mess...

Posted 4 years ago #
wildgoose77
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FCC to decide on net neutrality today. Watch the meeting LIVE on c-span:

http://www.c-span.org/Events/FCC-Considers-Adopting-Net-Neutrality/10737418370-1/

Posted 1 year ago #
gramarye
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Note that this thread was bumped from two years ago, which may make sense to keep the topic together, but also comes with this caveat: The proposed regulations have been through the proverbial sausage factory for a long time since this topic began. The content has changed somewhat. It is a "net neutrality-lite" set of regulations that are being proposed at the moment, from my limited reading on the subject thus far. That may actually be all that we really need, or it may not. I'll follow up later if I find any kind of fact-intensive breakdown of the differences between the old proposal and the new one without a lot of histrionics.

Posted 1 year ago #
roy
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Let me take this opportunity to say, we don't hear nearly enough from brilliant and interesting CU member Th0m. I miss him.

Posted 1 year ago #
Walker
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th0m is a busy dude and has little time for us mere mortals anymore. ;)

Posted 1 year ago #
catnfiddle
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roy wrote >>
Let me take this opportunity to say, we don't hear nearly enough from brilliant and interesting CU member Th0m. I miss him.

I've seen him in person a few times recently and can attest that he is just as charming live as online.

Back on topic, this whole debate has me worried, especially considering I need the internet on a professional basis and don't want to see anything blocking its usage.

Posted 1 year ago #
wildgoose77
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http://yalelawandpolicy.org/29/net-neutrality-as-diplomacy

Posted 1 year ago #