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Pickerington_Kyle
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Posted 1 year ago # -
jbcmh81
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Here are some attendance figures for OSU vs their respective minor or pro teams. Unless otherwise noted, these are for 2011.
Baseball
OSU: 1,235
Clippers: 8,704Soccer
OSU: 1,084
Crew: 13,929Hockey
OSU: 4,261
Blue Jackets: 15,165OSU Basketball: 15,125
OSU Football: 105,278 (2010)So clearly, OSU is not dominant outside of football, and pro or minor league teams get several times more fans on average.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Pickerington_Kyle
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Columbus Clippers 12,078 (attendance last night) 158,619 (total number of fans) 22 games 7,210 (average). The Clippers draws the 3rd highest in the International league out of 14 teams, following Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs (8,468) and Louisville Bats (7,838).
Columbus Crew 63,290 (total fans, 5 games, 12,658 (average). They currently draw the 13th best out of 19 teams in MLS.
Columbus Blue Jackets 14,660 (average), 80% capacity, 601,061 (total fans), and 27th out of 30 teams. Not bad for having the worst record in the league. With better management, and a good goaltender they might average about 16,000-17,000 fans a night.
I read in the Dispatch last week that 2x amount of people in Columbus watch the NBA over the NHL. As you see from my statistics above, the Clippers draw some of the most fans of minor league baseball because they have won two championships in the past year and play in a new park. Nationwide Arena is an amazing stadium and has been ranked by ESPN in 2004 as one of the best stadium experiences. If an NBA team WAS to come to town, I think they could easily average around 16,000 fans a night. (86% capacity).
Also how many times have you heard some one say: "dude lets go to a Blue Jackets game, Sidney Crosby is in town." you would be like ok and might go to the game, but if you heard Derrick Rose, Carmello Anthony, Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, etc... you would be more willing to go to a game.
Ohio State Men's Basketball Attendance: 20 Games 302,498 (total fans) 15,125 (average). Also 13th out of 100+ teams.
If I can find the video clip I'll post it up, but there's a Simpson episode were none goes to the Springfield Atoms baseball games, and all of a sudden they get a superstar player and there playing a championship game and EVERYONE is a fan. That's what I feel like the Blue Jackets would be like. lol.
Well that's my write up..
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Experts say Columbus would struggle to support NBA team
Premium content from Business First by Jeff Bell, Staff reporter
Date: Friday, June 15, 2012Mayor Michael Coleman typically has big aspirations for Columbus, but his push to bring a National Basketball Association franchise to the city may be setting the bar too high for what’s possible.
READ MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2012/06/15/experts-say-columbus-would-struggle-to.htmlPosted 1 year ago # -
NerosNeptune
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It's not the size of the market, it's the... well whatever.
Dallas is a huge market, and the Stars have some of the worst attendance figures in the NHL.
Can we extrapolate college sports to pro when it comes to popularity/attendance? OSU basketball way outdraws OSU hockey, which, even though I've never seen any numbers, I'm guessing way outdraws OSU soccer. So the Columbus Honey Badgers > CBJ > Crew?
Although by that logic, the Columbus Seamen NFL franchise would draw approximately 500k per game.
Posted 1 year ago # -
buckeyecpa
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Experts have been wrong plenty of times. A quick thought by an expert is basically a guess. Keep in mind if it were up to experts and studies OKC would not have an NBA team. The mayor wanted a team and David Stern and the NBA shut it down with a quick No and wouldn't discuss further. Oklahoma is a big college sports state. Without Katrina and New Orleans owner desperate to not lose the money OKC would never have had a team.
Worst case scenario using a 5 year look at attendance records for the NBA is roughly 13,000. The teams that have achieved that are the teams that are dead last with minimal wins. Dead last attendance teams don't remain dead last consecutive years. With the way the draft is set up a dead last team can turn around and fill their arena immediately or at least at a level that is more than satisfactory.
NBA attendance should never be compared to NHL under any circumstance. One great player does not change a franchise around like it does in the NBA. Also, people don't go to just see one player play which happens in the NBA. With smaller rosters it is easier to have many teams with superstars that bring out the fans. People will fill a stadium on even a bad team to see the superstars player. NHL doesn't have that type of draw.
I'll admit football can't compete in this city. But there are very few areas where college basketball has that pull. Columbus is not that area. Also, Columbus has many international students and residents where NBA is huge where they are (specifically Asia) and college sports are meaningless.
Like the NBA or not, supporting the idea should be heavily considered with an open mind. Please read this article on the economic strain the NBA lockout produced on the city. Obviously a lockout is bad but I want to use this article to show the numbers that an NBA team brings to a city. Even the best NHL teams can't say they bring an economic impact that matches what is listed in the article.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2011/11/breaking_down_the_per-game_los.html
I believe Columbus can support an NBA franchise and the franchise wouldn't be a money pit or burden to the city.
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Pickerington_Kyle
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johnwirtz said:
I'm confused. Pickerington_Kyle said Columbus is sports hungry, but experts say we can't support it? Something isn't right.We listen to weather forecasters all the time and their not always right. I don't feel like arguing much about this, but an NBA team would draw better then the Blue Jackets. Enough said.
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johnwirtz
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Pickerington_Kyle said:
We listen to weather forecasters all the time and their not always right. I don't feel like arguing much about this, but an NBA team would draw better then the Blue Jackets. Enough said.Probably true. I'm just giving you a hard time. I think I get images of being literally sports hungry in my head and it makes me laugh.
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Elmo Blatch
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If Oklahoma City can do it (and look at them now), why couldn't Columbus? Just sayin'
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Elmo Blatch said:
If Oklahoma City can do it (and look at them now), why couldn't Columbus? Just sayin'Oklahoma also got lucky. They got a franchise that was Kevin Durant's first year. If Columbus were to get an NBA team and their first player was Anthony Davis, Bradley Beal, or MKG. They might have a playoff bound team (that's if one were to relocated like Sacramento or Milwaukee).
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Countdown: Multi-sport towns comparable to Columbus
Business First by Rick Rouan, Web coordinator
Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 12:26pmExperts might be dashing Mayor Michael Coleman’s dreams of adding a National Basketball Association franchise to the tenant list at Nationwide Arena, but 10 cities have similar populations to Columbus and support two professional sports franchises.
READ MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2012/06/countdown-midwests-multi-sport-towns.html
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