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Millennials, Gen Y, The Suburbs and The National Housing Crisis

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    lifeontwowheels
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    I can talk to buffalos said:
    That sounds like the country, not the suburbs. My parents live in the burbs, and they have 5 grocery stores within 1.5 miles of their home (meijer, kroger, walmart, gfs, and aldi). Suburbs tend to have amenities much closer than 5 miles.

    This was Canal Winchester/Pickerington between Gender and 256. Hardly country.

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    O I would lover a denser city and more downtown and the neighborhoods. I don’t know where I’ve said otherwise, other than pointing out that from a objective outlook downtown isn’t exactly the bleak ghost town people like you try to paint it as just because their type of people and their type of bars aren’t there.

    Could it be better? Certainly and I have agreed very consistently with that idea throughout my time here.

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    Does not seem that way to me. IT seems as though you are always arguing for the status quo. I really invite you to go out, and see America, heck see the world. Our downtown is so far from being dense it is laughable. In fact it is the least dense downtown out of the 3C’s in Ohio. Downtown is dead, certain pockets of downtown are lively, but on a whole it is dead. In fact, I venture to say that downtown Detroit is more lively after work hours than Columbus is.

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    I can talk to buffalos said:
    Does not seem that way to me. IT seems as though you are always arguing for the status quo. I really invite you to go out, and see America, heck see the world. Our downtown is so far from being dense it is laughable. In fact it is the least dense downtown out of the 3C’s in Ohio. Downtown is dead, certain pockets of downtown are lively, but on a whole it is dead. In fact, I venture to say that downtown Detroit is more lively after work hours than Columbus is.

    You’re welcome to your opinions, which you seem full of.

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    lifeontwowheels said:
    You’re welcome to your opinions, which you seem full of.

    Well, I believe the vast majority of the board agrees with me. You seem to be the only person arguing for the status quo here. No one else believes the status quo is what we deserve here. Apparently when you moved from the burbs to the city, you made the choice not to live downtown, so apparently downtown is not really as great as what you are saying on here. We have 2 residents of downtown disagreeing with you, and yet you still try telling us, the residents of downtown, what we do and don’t need.

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    If anyone wants a denser more walkable/bike-able/transit friendly city, it’s me. Again, please show me where I have said anything to the contrary. Simply pointing out what does, in fact, exist there now isn’t advocating for the status quo.

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    I can talk to buffalos said:
    Well, I believe the vast majority of the board agrees with me.

    Really? You think the vast majority of the board agrees with you? Huh. Ok then.

    You seem to be the only person arguing for the status quo here. No one else believes the status quo is what we deserve here.

    I never heard lifeontwowheels arguing for the status quo, I heard him arguing that the status quo may not be as horrendously awful as you appear to think it is.

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    tourist19 said:
    Really? You think the vast majority of the board agrees with you? Huh. Ok then.

    I never heard lifeontwowheels arguing for the status quo, I heard him arguing that the status quo may not be as horrendously awful as you appear to think it is.

    Again, the only two downtown residents seem to agree. Why do you not move downtown then if it is so great? LOTW you as well? Why do you not move downtown?

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    tourist19 said:
    Really? You think the vast majority of the board agrees with you? Huh. Ok then.

    I never heard lifeontwowheels arguing for the status quo, I heard him arguing that the status quo may not be as horrendously awful as you appear to think it is.

    I kinda wonder if ICTTB ever has anything positive to say.
    I find myself in constant silent disagreement, but have nothing constructive to add and I don’t want to make threads about my starved ego.

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    I can talk to buffalos said:
    Again, the only two downtown residents seem to agree. Why do you not move downtown then if it is so great? LOTW you as well? Why do you not move downtown?

    I lived in Downtown for three years and had a wonderful experience.

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    I can talk to buffalos said:
    Again, the only two downtown residents seem to agree. Why do you not move downtown then if it is so great? LOTW you as well? Why do you not move downtown?

    1) Value for my money, namely. I have a 1,000 sq ft. 2 bedroom bachelor pad with a garage large enough for me to eventually put a work-stand and tools in for my bike and set up a home gym. Far less than I would pay for the condo or apartment downtown and the related fees.

    2) Space to put in a serious garden, so the grocery issue largely becomes moot.

    3) Awesome, off the beaten path food places. Like the mecca of taco trucks, the Jamerican place a 2 minute walk from my house or Luc’s.

    4) Density-our neighborhood has a pretty good stretch of commercial real estate along W. Broad ripe for development. I am cautiously optimistic that some good can happen here and am taking the gamble that it will, over time. With the casino a mile or two west, the developments slated to happen that way it’s not a bad bet.

    5) Access to transit and bike infrastructure. Though not as great as downtown, I still have access to the one of the lines, #10, that will be at the top of the improvement list year to year. Also access to the trail ways.

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    Buffalo man, could you keep the arguments on the topic and not against users? It’s sort of driving this thing off topic.

    Speaking of status quo and the original topic…

    One reason people move into suburbs is because it feels more acceptable (depending on education, where they grew up, etc). Suburbs just feel safer even if they are not. They feel like a safe investment, a safe school district, a safe commute, safe public space filled with safe little rows of houses. Even if none of this is true, the area will still be pushed to sell the image.

    Downtown regions vary widely in their population, and can house (or at least be frequented by) the richest and poorest tenants. You can’t feel safe when you’re being totally immersed in a big heaping stew of humanity. You can’t feel ignored when there are hundreds of pedestrians and cars just outside your window. People remember this feeling when they go downtown to participate in the bureaucracy, shop, or go to the city colleges. Downtown is seen as a public space, not a living space. And kids remember their experiences with that notion as they grow.

    The problem with our downtown is that it may end up being both a poor living space and public space. It’s decent, it’s livable, but it can be much better. Recent efforts at innovation downtown may help raise the quality of life in the future, but I see them more as a mask for underlying problems which are hard to program out of people.

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    I can talk to buffalos said:
    Downtown is dead, certain pockets of downtown are lively, but on a whole it is dead.

    You know what would make Downtown move lively?

    If everyone ran around complaining about how dead it is to everyone else. That’ll really make people want to spend time Downtown.

    Anyway, I had a good time tonight at MoJoe, OSU Urban Arts Space and Columbus Commons. Could Downtown be better? Sure, but until then we can support what we currently have and advocate for more improvements.

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    Seems like car-sharing would be good for people like Glaze who don’t have a car but need to make short grocery trips or occasional trips to the suburbs. I’m a little surprised this only exists on campus. I would think at least the SN/VV/IV/GV/BD could support a few cars if not downtown itself.

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    johnwirtz said:
    Seems like car-sharing would be good for people like Glaze who don’t have a car but need to make short grocery trips or occasional trips to the suburbs. I’m a little surprised this only exists on campus. I would think at least the SN/VV/IV/GV/BD could support a few cars if not downtown itself.

    +100 – I think an easy to use car sharing system downtown would really make the weekly grocery trip so much easier.

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