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This is very disheartening to see. I thought animal-lovers were supposed to be just that... animal-lovers. The average unit in the building I live is around 1000 sq. ft. There are many, many people in my building with at least one large dog (although I have seen as many as 4 in one apartment). Large dogs do not deserve to be cooped up in a small living area. Large animals should have a yard and roam about as they please. It's like owning a huge fish but forcing it to live in a small bowl. It's disgusting but a huge pattern I have noticed in the area I live. If you want a huge dog, you should rent/buy a house with a yard.

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Actually Great Danes are one of the most recommended small apartment dogs.

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Coremodels said:
Actually Great Danes are one of the most recommended small apartment dogs.

I'm not talking about behavior.

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I can talk to buffalos said:
I'm not talking about behavior.

Then I have no idea what you are talking about. Danes are recommended for small apartments because they have a very low exercise requirement, so a 20 minute walk may be all they need for a day vs. a dog who would need a yard or tons of space. Mastiffs fall into the same category, as do greyhounds. If your entire premise is "they just seem too big for an apartment", I don't see what there is to discuss.

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Having a dog should not be about only fulfilling our human needs, we owe it to our dogs, to give them what THEY instinctually need.

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Interestingly, my dog wouldn't be that great for an apartment - not without a lot of walking, socializing, extra work. He's a 20lb terrier mutt.

I don't think size of the dog has anything to do with the space which they occupy.

Also - this makes all kinds of assumptions about the people who own the dogs. Perhaps they are rescues - would those same dogs have been better off, had no one taken them in?

Different dogs need different things. Sometimes, the people who care for them don't have good options about where to live (especially renting, with a larger dog), or don't have a ton of cash. Again - they've taken in a dog (generally, I'd say larger dogs are rescues - not all, of course), given them shelter & food & likely a pile of love. That seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.

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Interestingly, my dog wouldn't be that great for an apartment - not without a lot of walking, socializing, extra work. He's a 20lb terrier mutt.

I don't think size of the dog has anything to do with the space which they occupy.

Also - this makes all kinds of assumptions about the people who own the dogs. Perhaps they are rescues - would those same dogs have been better off, had no one taken them in?

Different dogs need different things. Sometimes, the people who care for them don't have good options about where to live (especially renting, with a larger dog), or don't have a ton of cash. Again - they've taken in a dog (generally, I'd say larger dogs are rescues - not all, of course), given them shelter & food & likely a pile of love. That seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.

A) Why would you take in a dog if you don't have the entire means to provide for it?
B) My building is not the slightest bit cheap to live in. I should specify that my building is not an apartment building-- it is a condo building.

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I can talk to buffalos said:
Having a dog should not be about only fulfilling our human needs, we owe it to our dogs, to give them what THEY instinctually need.

Which is what core was saying; you're not talking about giving dogs what they need, but what you think they need.

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rus said:
Which is what core was saying; you're not talking about giving dogs what they need, but what you think they need.

I think the problem here is that you aren't grasping the fact that your dog needs you to understand what it means to be a dog.

It’s not about the dog. It’s always about the owner. It’s up to the owner to create an environment and circumstances in which the dog can thrive and be itself.

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rus said:
Which is what core was saying; you're not talking about giving dogs what they need, but what you think they need.

Bingo! Dogs are not a math equation. i.e. x lbs = y amount of space.

That said, I am somewhat sympathetic to the idea that many dogs do not get the ideal amount of space and/or exercise they need for a healthy, happy life.

But to the point of why would you take in a rescue if you don't have a big year. Umm, because the alternatives for the dog a much, much worse if you don't. (and yeah, my little yapper is a rescue, and so was my last dog, and my next will be also). Want to make a real difference besides just griping? Volunteer for a rescue. You don't have to even take a pet in, I've spent plenty of time just taking supplies to the people who are fostering pets until they can be placed.

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1000 sq. ft for one person and a dog doesn't sound that small to me.

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We must respect animals as the beings they are, rather than as the near-human companions we might wish them to be.

As a mother, I can attest to the fact that while raising a healthy, balanced dog is nowhere near as complicated a task as raising a healthy, balanced human, it is absolutely no less of a commitment.

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Bingo! Dogs are not a math equation. i.e. x lbs = y amount of space.

Exactly.

My pooch is a rescue as well.

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I can talk to buffalos said:
We must respect animals as the beings they are, rather than as the near-human companions we might wish them to be.

You first.

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I can talk to buffalos said:
A) Why would you take in a dog if you don't have the entire means to provide for it?
B) My building is not the slightest bit cheap to live in. I should specify that my building is not an apartment building-- it is a condo building.

A) Because sometimes life happens and circumstances change.
B) I still find it odd that you are judging your neighbors in this way. If the dogs were creating some issue for you (barking, crapping in the hallway, threatening you in some way), *then* you have an issue. Now, you're just looking for some way to push a weird, slightly obscure agenda, that feels faintly like some of the vegan rigamarole bandied about.

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Twixlen said:
A) Because sometimes life happens and circumstances change.
B) I still find it odd that you are judging your neighbors in this way. If the dogs were creating some issue for you (barking, crapping in the hallway, threatening you in some way), *then* you have an issue. Now, you're just looking for some way to push a weird, slightly obscure agenda, that feels faintly like some of the vegan rigamarole bandied about.

A) I guarantee you that isn't the case in most "circumstances."
B) I do have issues with them, and they should be judged. The way their dogs behave reflects on my neighbors as owners (who for some reason, despite said behavior still refuse to use leashes for whatever reason). The other day, as I was leaving one barged into my apartment and ran all over the place, jumped on all of my furniture, etc. And yesterday, as I was in the elevator, another jumped on me and scratched the shit out my arms while the owner just stood there and giggled, "LOL SORRY!" But this is somewhat a digression of the topic at hand... or maybe it isn't, as supposedly as some of you said, these types of dogs have "less energy" and don't require "as much exercise."

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Fine, you put forth the proposition, throw some facts and citations that go beyond what you feel is right.

BTW: I'm less sympathetic than I was.

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BTW: I'm less sympathetic than I was.

No shit.

Posted 10 months ago #
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Seems like your issue is with the owners, not the dogs. Doesn't matter the size. Hell my parents have a 6 lb Yorkie that we have to lock up when repair guys come over.

I'm sure your neighbors could probably find some quirk of yours to complain about.

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And you're less sympathetic because

DavidF said:
Fine, you put forth the proposition, throw some facts and citations that go beyond what you feel is right.

BTW: I'm less sympathetic than I was.

Please rephrase? I have no idea what you're saying.

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