Twixlen
The Weston District
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It's all over Teh Twitters...
Here's the NYTimes piece/obit.
SEOUL, South Korea — Kim Jong-il, the reclusive North Korean leader who has been battling ill health following a reported stroke in 2008, has died, the North’s official news media reported on Monday.“Our great leader Comrade Kim Jong-il passed away at 8:30 a.m. on Dec. 17,” Korean Central TV reported.
Manatee
Granville
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I heard this gentleman had died and said to my friend, "Well, he's been dead for 24 minutes. If I go on to Columbus Underground right now, Coremodels will have already started a thread titled 'Kim Jong Il = Dead'."
So here we are. Except it was Twixlen instead of Coremodels.
I have nothing to contribute or add about the actual death of this man.
patient_zero
Falafel District
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vestanpance
Harrison West/at work OSU
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You think these Kim Jong Il tweets are funny, wait until 2050 when the North Koreans hear about it.
alexs
Limestone bluffs of the Scioto
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I wonder what happened when the north/south border was established on the 38th parallel. It's an arbitrary straight line that cuts across all geographic features so there must be places where the line placement seems nonsensical. Someone's gotta drill a shitload of fence post holes, in every terrain... Then on top of that it's still technically a war zone so it has to be monitored and patrolled.
jarsloth
westside
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alexs said:
I wonder what happened when the north/south border was established on the 38th parallel. It's an arbitrary straight line that cuts across all geographic features so there must be places where the line placement seems nonsensical. Someone's gotta drill a shitload of fence post holes, in every terrain... Then on top of that it's still technically a war zone so it has to be monitored and patrolled.
Even scarier is that since the Korean conflict ended, South Korea has discovered tunnels running below the DMZ; I think they've found four so far but afraid there are more that haven't been discovered.
alexs
Limestone bluffs of the Scioto
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Recently the north told the south not to take provocative measures like displaying Christmas lights within sight of the border. And then haven't there been cross-border loudspeaker duels for years? It's like some Vonnegut absurdist tale, made real. It's just missing the Ice Nine.
groundrules
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looking forward to a south park episode on this.
Rockmastermike
The Bacon District
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Kim Jong-Un Privately Doubting He's Crazy Enough To Run North Korea
PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA—In surprisingly candid remarks today following his father's death, Kim Jong-un, heir apparent to North Korea's highest government post, expressed doubt that he was sufficiently out of his mind to succeed longtime dictator Kim Jong-il.Kim says the task of somehow becoming "as loony tunes as [his] dad" is a daunting one.
While emphasizing that he was definitely completely insane and would likely become even more so as leader of North Korea, the younger Kim nevertheless wondered if he could ever be enough of a lunatic to truly replace the most unhinged dictator on the planet.
groundrules
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same day as his death, they're conducting short range missile tests. coincidence or saber-rattling? probably the former, but still...
Twixlen
The Weston District
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The coverage of "outpourings of grief" are something to see. Masses of people, weeping, apparently inconsolable. One report spoke of making phone calls and the switchboard operators sobbing openly on the phone.
I may have been more stunned by the news they were still using switchboard operators.
jarsloth
westside
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North Korea is a strange animal indeed; for those who are interested, there are a number of documentaries available on Netflix. It's so isolated and these people have lived under a curtain of isolationism for over 50 years; for the younger ones, it's all they know.
Twixlen
The Weston District
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Was trying to imagine what would happen if they all suddenly had unlimited access to the internet, to information. Would they believe anything other than what they've been told? I'm thinking of that study that showed how really dogmatic believers of something are not swayed by even the most perfect evidence of their wrongness - in fact, all attempts to refute what they persistently believe actually causes them to dig in and believe that thing even harder.
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Twixlen said:
Was trying to imagine what would happen if they all suddenly had unlimited access to the internet, to information. Would they believe anything other than what they've been told? I'm thinking of that study that showed how really dogmatic believers of something are not swayed by even the most perfect evidence of their wrongness - in fact, all attempts to refute what they persistently believe actually causes them to dig in and believe that thing even harder.
see creationists, climate change deniers, etc.
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