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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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I saw this mentioned in the 3C discussion but thought this might deserve it's own spinoff:

Kasich wants nonprofit take over state's economic-development work
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WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 18, 2010
BY JOE HALLETT AND MARK NIQUETTE
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

In the first substantive proposal of the governor's race, Republican John Kasich said yesterday that he wants to replace the Ohio Department of Development with a private, nonprofit corporation.

Kasich would create JobsOhio and appoint a 12-member board of directors to oversee economic-development efforts, replacing half the state agency's 400 jobs. The board would be made up of current and former chief executive officers, who would report to the governor. Members would come from different industries and areas of the state, Kasich said, and probably would be paid expenses only.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/08/18/copy/a-privatization-proposal.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

Posted 1 year ago #
spookygoddess78
Northland-ish
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Yeah, Mr. K said two things he probably wants to take back: "We don't want public employees," and "all the way to dotting T's and crossing I's."

Posted 1 year ago #
HeySquare
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http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/08/18/copy/a-privatization-proposal.html?adsec=politics&sid=101 wrote >>
Kasich said he would be chairman of the JobsOhio board, "but we don't want a government entity. We don't want the civil-service restrictions."

Translation: I want to give jobs to all my cronies.

There is a reason the civil service was established, Mr. Kasich.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system

Posted 1 year ago #
berdawn
near that stretch of N. High Street in the Short North
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That anyone would call this "substantive" is almost as funny as it is pathetic.

Posted 1 year ago #
chaptal
West Side
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Kasich wants only two people to work in government, him and his dead postal worker father.

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Analogue Kid
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I don't know much about ODOD, but I can tell you from experience that things do not turn out well when you take a sledgehammer to a problem that only requires a socket wrench.

Posted 1 year ago #
Lakee911
Clintonville (South)
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Well, he's not going to get elected, so what is there to worry about? Right?

Posted 1 year ago #
Nitsud Regnifloh
Valerio Heights
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Surely he could NEVER have a good idea...surely. Right??

Posted 1 year ago #
berdawn
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Lakee911 wrote >>
Well, he's not going to get elected, so what is there to worry about? Right?

it's early, but unless he comes out with something Rand Paul or Sharron Angle-y, my guess is he'll do very well.

Posted 1 year ago #
joev
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It's grandstanding. If another entity would have been in the news in a negative light last week, he would have picked that one to "privatize." Kasich's obvious disgust for state workers makes him unfit to lead them. To be so derrogatory without knowing much about the work the department does is not a great way to lead.

Plus, he's inconsistent. In the Dispatch, he's quoted as saying, "We don't want state workers." In the Plain Dealer, he said a private non-profit would allow better pay than the state. So he wants to spend money on talent, as long as they're not tained by being state workers? I don't know any state workers who are in it for the money, but I know a lot who are in it because they know the work they do is helping their fellow Ohioans.

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berdawn
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Nitsud Regnifloh wrote >>
Surely he could NEVER have a good idea...surely. Right??

not yet, anyway.

Posted 1 year ago #
thepiece
merion village
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This proposal seems like symbolic fluff to me. He wants to get his government bashing stripes. ODOD is relatively small (for a state agency) and also administers lots of federal programs (CDBG etc.). So, many of those positions are leveraging federal money, I'm not sure how cutting those jobs saves us money.
(the same reason I don't understand how him attacking the federally funded 3C actually saves us money)

Also, ODOD is economic and community development (with a large number of housing programs), something his proposal seems to just ignore.
So, why would a group of CEO's be better administering the agency than the governor's economic advisors? Why would a non-profit board of CEO's be better at administering community development programs?

Disclaimer: I worked for ODOD during the Taft administration for 2 years so I have a bias on this topic

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Andrew Hall
Dennison Place (The Circles)
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Nitsud Regnifloh wrote >>
Surely he could NEVER have a good idea...surely. Right??

I donated time and money and shoe leather to the Strickland campaign. I have not been a happy constituent. I was seriously considering voting for Kasich when he became the presumptive nominee. Every time he opens his mouth though, he loses my vote and does so with regularity. It is not that I disagree - I don't expect to agree fully with every politician I suppoprt - it is that everything he has said so far has been ill-thought-out, woefully incomplete and just the same cliched bad rhetoric is all too prevalent.

The John who earned my respect back all those years ago is most emphatically NOT the John I see now.

A.

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Analogue Kid
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joev wrote >>
It's grandstanding. If another entity would have been in the news in a negative light last week, he would have picked that one to "privatize." Kasich's obvious disgust for state workers makes him unfit to lead them. To be so derrogatory without knowing much about the work the department does is not a great way to lead.
Plus, he's inconsistent. In the Dispatch, he's quoted as saying, "We don't want state workers." In the Plain Dealer, he said a private non-profit would allow better pay than the state. So he wants to spend money on talent, as long as they're not tained by being state workers? I don't know any state workers who are in it for the money, but I know a lot who are in it because they know the work they do is helping their fellow Ohioans.

But didn't you hear? The Buckeye Institute says state workers have gold plated compensation. Those greedy pensioners with their average annual $20,000 payout. I mean think of all the gold you could buy with that kind of money if you didn't eat and lived on the street!

Posted 1 year ago #
Mercurius
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Lakee911 wrote >>
Well, he's not going to get elected, so what is there to worry about? Right?

Last two polls have Kasich ahead eight to nine points respectively.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/ohio/election_2010_ohio_governor
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http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2010/08/11/reuters_poll_kasich_portman_ah.html

Posted 1 year ago #
jimbach
Short North (WP division)
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I thought Kasich was a pretty good member of Congress, but the things he's saying now make me think he's lost his mind. I realize of course that he's simply playing to his base.

Posted 1 year ago #
NDaEast
Near East Side
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Silly, silly proposal. Just what we need: a group of volunteers to head the state's development effort.

Posted 1 year ago #
SusanB
Hungarian Village, Columbus' fastest growing Gayborhood!
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This will allow all kinds of financial hanky panky without any legal oversight. Isn't this the state agency in charge of all the HUD money and Tax Credit home building programs? That's a lot of government money to be hidden from public view.

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jackoh
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SusanB wrote >>
This will allow all kinds of financial hanky panky without any legal oversight.

Wasn't this modus operandi at Lehman Brothers?

Posted 1 year ago #
Rockmastermike
CORNspiracy HQ
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jackoh wrote >>

SusanB wrote >>
This will allow all kinds of financial hanky panky without any legal oversight.

Wasn't this modus operandi at Lehman Brothers?

bingo. Kasich seems to be very good at turning power into money and back again. I.e. leveraging his elected position to squeeze a paid appointment at OSU, using his position as an insider in state gov to get in at lehman brothers.... He appears, to my eyes, judging from the relationships he himself has discussed, to be VERY good at the old "pay to play" game. But that's just my opinion from observation.

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