Has anyone else caught this show? I find it absolutely fascinating. Jamie is trying to make over the lunch programs in Huntington, WV.
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Saw the first one on Hulu. Looks good and I love how pissed the lunch ladies are at him.
It was amazing to see how screwed up the "nutrition" requirements are in the States for schools. The two bread requirements for the one lunch was the pizza. Which they also served the day before for breakfast.
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This truly scares me to think about sending my son to school and being surrounded by such unhealthy choices....and to think he'll have classmates that don't even know what a tomato is. Yikes!
I hope this catches on...Posted 2 years ago # -
It seems only natural to want to provide healthier options for your children rather than stubbornly persist to provide food that the cooks had no strong argument for providing it in the first place. It was more frustrating to watch the cooks resist Jamie's willingness because they were misconstruing it as if he were insulting them. Even down to the administration getting upset with him seemed so reactive and maladaptive to what his initiative was the in the first place.
I agree with lifeontwowheels about the "nutrition" requirements too. It didn't seem to matter what type of "grain" they were giving the kids as long as it was there and there was absolutely to insistence about any other requirements being fulfilled other than the "grain".
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I'll have to dvr this - it sounds interesting.
NPR has done a few stories on the school lunch issue - basically, on how little money per child is put into a meal, and how there isn't any food cooked anymore, that it's all pre-packaged, processed, pre-prepared stuff.
In related news, Southwestern School District believes that a Superpretzel with a packet of cheese = lunch.
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bmshellb5 wrote >>
It seems only natural to want to provide healthier options for your children rather than stubbornly persist to provide food that the cooks had no strong argument for providing it in the first place. It was more frustrating to watch the cooks resist Jamie's willingness because they were misconstruing it as if he were insulting them. Even down to the administration getting upset with him seemed so reactive and maladaptive to what his initiative was the in the first place.
I agree with lifeontwowheels about the "nutrition" requirements too. It didn't seem to matter what type of "grain" they were giving the kids as long as it was there and there was absolutely to insistence about any other requirements being fulfilled other than the "grain".I finally got around to watching Morgan Spurlock's "Supersize Me" the other day on Hulu and there is a good bit comparing different school food programs. One was pretty much what Huntington had, everything pre-prepped, quick frozen, thaw and reheat. Another, a public school for kids with behavior issues, worked with a local group to provide fresh cooked, healthy meals at largely the same cost as the first school.
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"everything is one color, golden brown"
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lifeontwowheels wrote >>
bmshellb5 wrote >>
It seems only natural to want to provide healthier options for your children rather than stubbornly persist to provide food that the cooks had no strong argument for providing it in the first place. It was more frustrating to watch the cooks resist Jamie's willingness because they were misconstruing it as if he were insulting them. Even down to the administration getting upset with him seemed so reactive and maladaptive to what his initiative was the in the first place.
I agree with lifeontwowheels about the "nutrition" requirements too. It didn't seem to matter what type of "grain" they were giving the kids as long as it was there and there was absolutely to insistence about any other requirements being fulfilled other than the "grain".I finally got around to watching Morgan Spurlock's "Supersize Me" the other day on Hulu and there is a good bit comparing different school food programs. One was pretty much what Huntington had, everything pre-prepped, quick frozen, thaw and reheat. Another, a public school for kids with behavior issues, worked with a local group to provide fresh cooked, healthy meals at largely the same cost as the first school.
I've long wondered how much of behavior issues are actually food sensitivities - kids don't process food in the same way as adults. Food coloring, msg, various preservatives, much less vitamin deficiency can definitely have mood-altering effects.
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Twixlen wrote >>
lifeontwowheels wrote >>
bmshellb5 wrote >>
It seems only natural to want to provide healthier options for your children rather than stubbornly persist to provide food that the cooks had no strong argument for providing it in the first place. It was more frustrating to watch the cooks resist Jamie's willingness because they were misconstruing it as if he were insulting them. Even down to the administration getting upset with him seemed so reactive and maladaptive to what his initiative was the in the first place.
I agree with lifeontwowheels about the "nutrition" requirements too. It didn't seem to matter what type of "grain" they were giving the kids as long as it was there and there was absolutely to insistence about any other requirements being fulfilled other than the "grain".I finally got around to watching Morgan Spurlock's "Supersize Me" the other day on Hulu and there is a good bit comparing different school food programs. One was pretty much what Huntington had, everything pre-prepped, quick frozen, thaw and reheat. Another, a public school for kids with behavior issues, worked with a local group to provide fresh cooked, healthy meals at largely the same cost as the first school.
I've long wondered how much of behavior issues are actually food sensitivities - kids don't process food in the same way as adults. Food coloring, msg, various preservatives, much less vitamin deficiency can definitely have mood-altering effects.
This particular school stated they noticed a change for the better when they made the switch.
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Twixlen wrote >>
I've long wondered how much of behavior issues are actually food sensitivities - kids don't process food in the same way as adults. Food coloring, msg, various preservatives, much less vitamin deficiency can definitely have mood-altering effects.I've a lot of suspicions on that myself, but as it relates to adults. Never seen a study which even attempted to quantify behavior to different foods ( not just food additives ) though... and might be difficult to prove it was a single variable anyway.
Interesting thought, though.
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Another, a public school for kids with behavior issues, worked with a local group to provide fresh cooked, healthy meals at largely the same cost as the first school.
Yeah, I think that was Appleton Central Alternative, and its one of the most interesting case studies on the effects of school food on the student population. You can see a specific short on that school's program here:
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/act-c-vvfc-videos-impact.html
Also worth a watch is Two Angry Moms:
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The episodes are up on hulu in case you've missed it. http://www.hulu.com/jamie-olivers-food-revolution
The potato pearls to make mashed potatoes are truly disgusting. I remember how distinctive they tasted. Gross. In the latest episode some of these kids don't know how to use a fork and knife cause their food had never required it before.
I remember always watching and helping my mom cook. It's really sad that the majority of kids don't get that any more.
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takeasiesta wrote >>
In the latest episode some of these kids don't know how to use a fork and knife cause their food had never required it before.Frank Zappa: "How long before Confinement Loaf appears in United States high schools?"
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The episodes are up on hulu in case you've missed it. http://www.hulu.com/jamie-olivers-food-revolution
Thanks for the link. I've heard so much about his show and had no idea it had already started airing!
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school lunches are pretty gross. i have two kids in public school(next year 3!) and they only buy on fridays because it's pizza day. my son wanted to try buying every day when he first entered middle school. it lasted a week and he was so sick and green. his school picture that year really shows it too.
it IS really hard to pack sometimes though. they get sick of the same things, it's 6am and i'm packing lunches. it seems like no big deal, but when you are totally pooped already, packing the lunches sometimes seems like a massive PITA.Posted 2 years ago # -
For the most part I liked the show; very interesting concept and I think an example of reality TV that has a positive message/motivation. I thought the one part where he was getting a little weepy and having the interview in front of the playground was a little contrived/dramatic, but otherwise really looking forward to watching this. Especially as it's on one of the few channels we get reception :-)
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Thought I should remind folks of some ways to get involved locally if you want to help improve the quality of school lunches -- Local Matters' Food is Elementary program, which can always use volunteers and donations, and Slow Food's ongoing Time for Lunch campaign, which helps you demand change from your legislators and stay informed.
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jarsloth wrote >>
For the most part I liked the show; very interesting concept and I think an example of reality TV that has a positive message/motivation. I thought the one part where he was getting a little weepy and having the interview in front of the playground was a little contrived/dramatic, but otherwise really looking forward to watching this. Especially as it's on one of the few channels we get reception :-)I think he was genuinely saddened that these people were so sure his motives were to make them look stupid. Like he said, he's left his family at home to come help theirs. It's draining when you're passionate about helping people and they fight you the whole way. And I'm defending it because it tore me up just watching it, haha. *sniffle, sniffle*d
I was really impressed that he didn't call that family out when he knew they were lying to him. He knew they'd shut down and he wouldn't ever get through. Didn't everyone watching want to scream at her! They should have taken a picture of her crying about her killing her kids with all that food on the table in the background, blown it up poster size, and put it on the refrigerator :) Love that instead he's just taken that kid under his wing. I hate that so many kids get punished in life because their parents suck.
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somertimeoh wrote >>
jarsloth wrote >>
For the most part I liked the show; very interesting concept and I think an example of reality TV that has a positive message/motivation. I thought the one part where he was getting a little weepy and having the interview in front of the playground was a little contrived/dramatic, but otherwise really looking forward to watching this. Especially as it's on one of the few channels we get reception :-)I think he was genuinely saddened that these people were so sure his motives were to make them look stupid. Like he said, he's left his family at home to come help theirs. It's draining when you're passionate about helping people and they fight you the whole way. And I'm defending it because it tore me up just watching it, haha. *sniffle, sniffle*d
I was really impressed that he didn't call that family out when he knew they were lying to him. He knew they'd shut down and he wouldn't ever get through. Didn't everyone watching want to scream at her! They should have taken a picture of her crying about her killing her kids with all that food on the table in the background, blown it up poster size, and put it on the refrigerator :) Love that instead he's just taken that kid under his wing. I hate that so many kids get punished in life because their parents suck.I agree - I think Jamie is totally sincere and genuine (he's one of my favorite "celebrity" chefs because of his sincerity and honest passion). I guess I should've qualified that remark w/ "I thought the production was a little dramatic..." in that particular scene.
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Just watched his chicken nugget experiment. Wow
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