I found this to be an very interesting takedown of ID from an unexpected angle (fair warning, it's heavy on the molecular bio-speak): Footprints of nonsentient design inside the human genome
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Posted 2 years ago #
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I don't think people can talk seriously about it because the majority thinks its some evil plot to get religion in schools (which is complete bullshit.)
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The first thing that struck me is the subjectivity of attempting to decide what "works" at a genetic level, and what doesn't. I mean, in some ways it might seem obvious, but in other ways... we just don't know everything, and so to assume that we know if a particular genetic combination "works" in the long run over evolutionary time... that's pretty sketchy to me.
Very interesting article, though, lots to think about.
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I know it’s a huge debate about what should be taught in school when it comes to creationism and evolution. I don’t think studying one is at all helpful. I think it would be awesome if at the high school level they had a life studies course that you could pick as an elective. Instead of focusing on just two points why not study all religions and theories from around the world to have a large perspective on the different ideas. This way nothing is left out and it’s not bias towards one idea or another. Also since the student could pick the class as an elective then it would not be forced. Sorry for the derail it's just been on my mind
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As long as we teach that gravity and thermodynamics are also theories.
Conversely, we could offer courses in astrology along with astronomy and let the students decide.
I know I would rather have taken alchemy than chemistry.
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Manatee wrote >>
The first thing that struck me is the subjectivity of attempting to decide what "works" at a genetic level, and what doesn't. I mean, in some ways it might seem obvious, but in other ways... we just don't know everything, and so to assume that we know if a particular genetic combination "works" in the long run over evolutionary time... that's pretty sketchy to me.
Very interesting article, though, lots to think about.I believe in the article "works" is defined as simpler system that consumes much less energy at a molecular level to perform its defined task. Since molecular processes are unlikely to have a philosophical debate about which is better amongst themselves, it's a mistake to define them by our standards when the scope of inputs and outputs is much more limited. Also, since you can in fact build molecular biological systems in the laboratory now, it's entirely plausible that it's not a mere statement that human molecular processes could be known factually to be inefficient and needlessly complex.
@misskitty - there's a world of difference between the theory of evolution and religious origin myths. I'm for putting religion back into philosophy classes and keeping it out of science laboratories.
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Misskitty, religion is usually rolled into world history. they teach what different religions believe, origins, etc. i have a teenager, and that's how i remember we learned about different religions in school too.
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