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Actually I originally came to this CU to start off making friends, but most to try and find a cool cyberpunk girlfriend, but mostly fear-of-commitment and general self-perceived social ineptness from actually meeting anyone online or not :D
Anyone else have thoughts on the article?
Coremodels
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I can honestly say ;)
That's the best damn article link ever posted on this site in my mind, and I was absolutely glued to it...and then e-mailed it off to about 20 friends.
Thanks for the link.
Ltrgman
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Coremodels beat me to the punch!
Great article! One of the most engaging I've read. Def gonna share this one with other people as well.
I liked this quote from the article: "Men think about sex every three minutes, as the scientists at Redbook remind us. If you speak whatever's on your mind, you'll be talking about sex every three minutes."
So true :twisted:
I think I might try Radical Honesty for a bit as well haha.
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BTW, the guy who has founded the whole thing, Brad Blanton, kind of reminds me of my mother's father. He was one of those guys who never talked a whole lot, but he certainly wasn't going to spend even 30 seconds bullshitting you when he did. To this day, 30 years later, I remember him looking at me eye to eye and saying that I was a disrespectful, spoiled little shit and he'd knock me on my ass if I kept it up. From that day forward, if I never behaved anywhere else, I did in front of my grandfather and he had my undying respect.
shroud
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Great link, and a good read.
It's a really interesting concept.
I'm bummed the article's author didn't call-out Blanton on blatantly trying to sell his $3K workshop. "You need to attend the workshop to truly understand"... :lol:
Life would definitely be much, MUCH more interesting if no one bothered with the typical BS-dance. Lots of thin-skinned folks who would have a pretty tough adjustment period.
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shroud wrote I'm bummed the article's author didn't call-out Blanton on blatantly trying to sell his $3K workshop. "You need to attend the workshop to truly understand"... :lol:
LOL...thing is though, if you asked, he'd probably say "I need to pay my bills jackass, and the free advice limit has been reached" ;)
enzo
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I so prefer radical honesty rather than the sugar coated phoney baloney. I liked this portion:
"Do you think it's ever okay to lie?" I ask.
"I advocate never lying in personal relationships. But if you have Anne Frank in your attic and a Nazi knocks on the door, lie....I lie to any government official." (Blanton's politics are just this side of Noam Chomsky's.) "I lie to the IRS. I always take more deductions than are justified. I lie in golf. And in poker." :D
Andrew Hall
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Coremodels wrote BTW, the guy who has founded the whole thing, Brad Blanton, kind of reminds me of my mother's father. He was one of those guys who never talked a whole lot, but he certainly wasn't going to spend even 30 seconds bullshitting you when he did. To this day, 30 years later, I remember him looking at me eye to eye and saying that I was a disrespectful, spoiled little shit and he'd knock me on my ass if I kept it up. From that day forward, if I never behaved anywhere else, I did in front of my grandfather and he had my undying respect.
I think there is a world of difference between a person who only says what he means and someone like Blanton. The former actually puts thought into what they say and they stick by their word. Someone like Blanton puts no real value into their words and takes the ultimately cowardly approach by saying so much, cloaked as honesty, that none of his words are really meaningful and most are purely self-referential. It also make the very dubious mistake of equating the factually true (but mostly irrelevant) statement of 'I think you are fat' with the statement 'you are fat.' I suppose one could make the case of the proper response in RH terms to the first statement is 'I don't care what you think,' but that is pretty much a waste of a conversation.
There is one version of 'radical honesty' I wish would take hold and that is the ability to say 'I don't know.' That is the real truth most of the time both in real world matters and in personal ones. Too many people say what is on their mind without thinking it through.
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I don't know Andrew, I see what you are saying but I don't think I agree. Almost everything quoted in he article from the guy was a response...a solicited response. It wasn't walking up to guy and saying what's on his mind, it was guy walking up to him and asking to hear it.
I would agree, that if Blanton were walking up to people and just stating his "honesty" that's pretty much bullshit, but it sounds more like he's responding with honesty instead...and I kind of dig that.
EDIT: btw, it's all opinion brutha ;) The "facts" in this world are a pretty rare commodity if you ask me.
AmyArt21
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My question is:
If we all subscribed to this "Radical Honesty" thing, how many of us would have been fired years ago?
Sometimes you need to gently skirt around the truth. Or filter what you are thinking because it is NOT appropriate. Or acknowledge a question has been asked, ignore it, and move on.
Especially when you're a teacher. :)
I cherish my inner monologue and make sure that it stays [mostly] inner.
Walker
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The problem with "Radical Honesty" is that it's a concept that would only work for the betterment of society only if everyone in society subscribed to it.
Same goes for anarchy.
They're just not realistic concepts to even attempt to execute in the real world and expect very good results.
th0m
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That's so true... radical honesty is a horrible system, too, unless you consider all of the others...
I think I can honestly say that I'm really impressed by everyone's thoughts. Surprisingly not so much bullshit, but some good opinions. I'm kinda bored of it all now myself like most throw-away-links you find like on redditt or digg or delicious... I mean... there's always some kind of "this is OMG the best link on the net" and it is... for like 5 seconds, and then there's another story about some other celebrity peeing on some other city.
Tor~Johnson
Columbus
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i enjoyed it until about halfway through. then got bored and read the ending.
a fun movement and has potential as something to do now and then, but probably not a feasible way to exist in general...
lisathewaitress
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Tor~Johnson wrote i enjoyed it until about halfway through. then got bored and read the ending.
+1, but I have a pretty short attention span...to me, is sounded like 2 assholes being jerks. And were his quotes supposed to be a joke? Who believes he's slept with 450 women and had numerous threesomes? Again, I didn't read it with the closest detail.
Furthermore, this method of living can't work because men need, um intamacy. And they usually have to be dishonest somehow to get it, even in a small way. Oh, don't get all up in arms, boys. Women are always going to ask questions they expect men to lie in response to. If I asked Husband if I looked fat, and instead of rolling his eyes at me and saying "no, you don't look fat, you just as beautiful as ever," he decided to say "well, actually, you aren't rail thin, and if you lean over just so, I can see the smallest roll of fat," I can promise you, he would be a lonely man indeed.
Which, again, makes me wonder how this man expects us to believe his vast conquests. It just sounds like an excuse to make lots of money and be a jerk while doing it. Remember Tom Cruise's character in Magnolia?
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Well, I can safely say that I'm not the guy to ask "do I look fat in this" or anything similar unless you want an honest answer. I just never played the compliment fishing game...when I feel like paying you a compliment you'll get a genuine one unprovoked.
I'm also single though, so there ya go LOL!
p.s. judging by the fact he sleeps with men, women, and 3 somes? I'd say he's probably a swinger and those numbers aren't remotely unlikely.
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Motorist wrote This line made me laugh out loud."Not really. I don't like gift certificates. It's like you're giving me an errand to run."I get my parents a gift certificate for Christmas every year. :lol:
+1! And it definitely has some truth to it ;)
davescarpetti
C'ville
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"You'll have really bad times, you'll have really great times, but you'll contribute to other people because you haven't been dancing on eggshells your whole fucking life. It's a better life."
I think what's absent from this argument is the temporal component. If your comments come out at the time your emotions dictate, you can hurt others, badly and irreversibly. A more diplomatic solution and one that maintains your integrity is to delay a bit, evaluate a situation thoughtfully and then give an honest opinion. This isn't ass kissing, but simply keeps one from being perpetually disliked, which isn't really a good life.
Paul
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Walker wrote The problem with "Radical Honesty" is that it's a concept that would only work for the betterment of society only if everyone in society subscribed to it.Same goes for anarchy.
If everyone subscribed to anarchy... we would have anarchy.
That still doesn't mean that anarchy would "work."
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