RSS
Twitter
Facebook
YouTube
I wonder, if there's a palette of approved colors, and she painted the mural in those colors, would the neighbors still have a case?
Columbus Underground Messageboard » General Columbus Discussion
Hilliard Sunflower Debate
[106 posts] [43 contributors]
Topic Rating:
(Total Ratings: )
Rate this topic:
Rate this topic:
-
Cookie
Flyntonville
Login to Send PM
melikecheese wrote >>
Ugly or not, "deed restrictions" and "established covenants" is a lame excuse.She knew she was in the wrong. If you don't want your neighbors to tell you how to paint your garage, you don't live somewhere where they have the power to do so. It's not that complicated.
Posted 2 years ago # -
JD3
Columbus
Login to Send PM
-
JD3
Columbus
Login to Send PM
"she could load her front yard with lawn ornaments...that would really make the place look like crap."
Oh, so if you "express yourself" with a huge sunflower mural it's okay but if you like lawn ornaments they make the place look like crap? Judge much? I hope you can see my point.
"or leave trash all over, let the grass die, never pull weeds, do some many other things that would really make the place look like crap."
I'd suggest calling the city on this, they will ususally send the person a letter telling them it's a nuisance. I've done it before.
Posted 2 years ago # -
agtw31
columbus
Login to Send PM
my ex wife lives in a subdivision in Georgia with an association.
the association had a $5000 judgment/lien against the previous owner because she had a fence installed over 6' tall.
the reason they didnt want fences over 6' tall,is because people were filling their yards up with cars.
residents were running illegal garages in the neighborhood,one guy was running a frigging body shop in his garage.associations are good for the neighborhood,because they stop people from doing crazy stuff,like knuckleheads painting big flowers on the side of their house.
it's nothing new,they've been around for years,especially in areas around the short north and the north side.
Posted 2 years ago # -
JD3
Columbus
Login to Send PM
alove wrote >>
F*** that lady.
Proof there are still boring, unartistic, dictator-like types in this city.
Let's paint her bookstore tonight with all the colors of the wind?There is so much hypocracy in statements like this. Do you know what the word dictator means?
These people have set up rules for their community. You don't have to move there. But if you CHOOSE to live there, you have to follow the rules. You can't come in there and change all the rules becuase it's what YOU want to do and nobody else, like a dictator. The city and the lady complaining are not the dictators, the artist is, don't you see that?
And yes, let's all do physical damage to the property of someone we disagree with. You probably think you're open minded don't you? Stupid comment.Posted 2 years ago # -
Brant
Gahanna
Login to Send PM
People move to Hilliard because of the strict code enforcement. They like the blandscape. It keeps property values stable.
This is a question of taste, after all. If the woman had a badly-painted sunflower on the side of her house, or another poorly executed or garish display of art, property values would surely drop, and there wouldn't be any objection to the code enforcement. But the government is not an arbiter of taste, only of laws.
So in order to prevent bad art the government has to restrict ALL art. Even if it means that cool, funky, bright little beams of happiness like Ms. Daniel's sunflower get the axe.
She might have saved herself some trouble had she asked what the laws were before she got out the paints. But she probably figured it'd be easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.
Posted 2 years ago # -
JD3
Columbus
Login to Send PM
Brant Jones wrote >>
People move to Hilliard because of the strict code enforcement. They like the blandscape. It keeps property values stable.
This is a question of taste, after all. If the woman had a badly-painted sunflower on the side of her house, or another poorly executed or garish display of art, property values would surely drop, and there wouldn't be any objection to the code enforcement. But the government is not an arbiter of taste, only of laws.
So in order to prevent bad art the government has to restrict ALL art. Even if it means that cool, funky, bright little beams of happiness like Ms. Daniel's sunflower get the axe.
She might have saved herself some trouble had she asked what the laws were before she got out the paints. But she probably figured it'd be easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.Well put. I don't know why this issue hits a nerve with me but it does, haha.
I restrained myself from posting the question of whether or not people would be up in arms if someone painted a huge ode to Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake or NASCAR. Whould they back the artist then? Or would it just be tacky like the lawn ornament statement.Posted 2 years ago # -
10sun
Columbus, OH
Login to Send PM
Don't be surprised when something that is specifically stated as being contrary to the law ends up being contrary to the law and people call you out on it.
Meet Fred Kanter of Mountain Lakes, NJ; he did not move some cars from his driveway that he had parked there and the city gave him a ticket... so he found out what wasn't clearly prohibited and did that. Over a dozen lion statues painted a variety of colors. Piles of bowling balls. Giant frog statues on his roof. The list goes on... I wish I had a good picture of his house
Posted 2 years ago # -
agtw31
columbus
Login to Send PM
10sun wrote >>
Don't be surprised when something that is specifically stated as being contrary to the law ends up being contrary to the law and people call you out on it.
Meet Fred Kanter of Mountain Lakes, NJ; he did not move some cars from his driveway that he had parked there and the city gave him a ticket... so he found out what wasn't clearly prohibited and did that. Over a dozen lion statues painted a variety of colors. Piles of bowling balls. Giant frog statues on his roof. The list goes on... I wish I had a good picture of his housea good friend of mine in oak ridge nj saw a cop walking up to his house.
the cop was looking under the tarps coverring some of his cars he had in his driveway.he got a ticket for each one that didn't have plates.
i told him he was going to get cracked having all those cars with no tags,but he didn't believe me.
Posted 2 years ago # -
rus
Login to Send PM
-
rus
Login to Send PM
cc wrote >>
All I know is that it really set back my plans of world domination...I hear ya. You know how hard it is to get a building permit for a Secret Volcano Lair? Hell, it's essentially geothermal... you'd think they'd WANT green energy, but NOOOOO....
Don't even get me started on the PETA people. Ill tempered sea bass are not a proper replacement for sharks with frickin lasers.
Posted 2 years ago # -
berdawn
near that stretch of N. High Street in the Short North
Login to Send PM
rus wrote >>
cc wrote >>
I once absentmindedly walked into Sams Club via the exit door. The greeter yelled at me saying :
"You can't go in the out door! What are you trying to do, rule the world?"Was there also a note about the white zone is for loading and unloading only?
what if one gets lonely raising dental floss?
Posted 2 years ago # -
kcrissinger
Brookshire
Login to Send PM
10sun wrote >>
It is a fucking ugly mural prohibited by deed restrictions and established covenants which the property owner knew full and well before purchasing the property over 25 years ago.She lives in Old Hilliard and I'm not sure that the Old Hilliard Commission even existed 25 years ago. It's not like a new subdivision where these things are apparent up front. Based on a few of the properties I've seen in the "historic district", this does not damage the property or other property values in any way.
Posted 2 years ago # -
lifeontwowheels
Highland West
Login to Send PM
JD3 wrote >>
lifeontwowheels wrote >>
Some people have nothing better to do, huh?
Really quite sad and apparently this woman prides herself on being a thorn in the side of Hilliard, nitpicking every little thing the city does.Funny, I'm not sure who you're talking about here.
The neighbor who complained.
I get the HOA argument, but it borders on the obscenely stupid. We can't technically have a shed in the backyard at my parent's place. Can't technically have a wood fence over a certain length. Thankfully we have a great relationship with the only neighbors who can see it.
Neighbors like the one who complained will nitpick every pathetic detail. If this woman had grabbed the "Hilliard Beige" from the Home Depot Shelf, the neighbor probably would have been out with the paint chips and code book making sure it was the exact shade specified in City Code 40456, subsection A, paragraph 3, line 5.
And yeah, the Sunflower Lady knew going in. But where do we draw the line? Why should my choice in housing be determined by my acceptance of rules formulated by past residents years before my time?
Posted 2 years ago #
You must log in to post.
Launched in August 2010, TheMetropreneur.com is a local online resource devoted to small business development and entrepreneurship. Its aim is to tell the stories of Central Ohio's business community, foster regional economic development and assist entrepreneurs with its resource-heavy focus.