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Started 1 year ago by tonloc620
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columbusmike

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gramarye said:
That might negatively affect my property value, but the alternative is affecting my own liberty. And, of course, the odds of the latter happening are fairly minimal. What is much more likely to happen with a less restrictive zoning code is that someone will actually get around to bringing a grocery store into the area.

Current zoning laws forbid warehouses from being in residential areas. It was purely done to prevent unsightly factory buildings from being around people's houses. You are also responsible for keeping sidewalks in good repair on your property. Is that giving up liberty too? :)

I know what you are saying, and I think it's a great/fun discussion. I think you either believe that someone has the right to do whatever they want with their property, or you believe that your property is part of the greater public sphere and you have some responsibility to that public sphere by owning property.

Posted 12 months ago #
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columbusmike said:
I know what you are saying, and I think it's a great/fun discussion. I think you either believe that someone has the right to do whatever they want with their property, or you believe that your property is part of the greater public sphere and you have some responsibility to that public sphere by owning property.

Well put.

I like the former idea.

Posted 12 months ago #
jackoh
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columbusmike said:
Current zoning laws forbid warehouses from being in residential areas. It was purely done to prevent unsightly factory buildings from being around people's houses. You are also responsible for keeping sidewalks in good repair on your property. Is that giving up liberty too? :)

I know what you are saying, and I think it's a great/fun discussion. I think you either believe that someone has the right to do whatever they want with their property, or you believe that your property is part of the greater public sphere and you have some responsibility to that public sphere by owning property.

Yes, well said. And with this distinction in mind you could apply it to understand the basis of the positions on almost any political issue being fought out today.

Posted 12 months ago #
GCrites80s
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Posted 12 months ago #
Walker
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columbusmike said:
I know what you are saying, and I think it's a great/fun discussion. I think you either believe that someone has the right to do whatever they want with their property, or you believe that your property is part of the greater public sphere and you have some responsibility to that public sphere by owning property.

Or something in between...

Posted 12 months ago #
Graybeak
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"Current zoning laws forbid warehouses from being in residential areas."
Kind of amusing, from the standpoint of how many warehouses are being turned into residential areas.

Posted 12 months ago #
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Walker said:
Or something in between...

Figure he means everything runs along a line between those two points, but which way you lean indicates your preference. The "are you an individual or are you a member of the collective?" question is simplistic in that individuals do tend to work together for a common cause and that there is variation even among very homogenous groups, but does serve to illustrate the overall trend.

Unless, of course, you demand everything be a binary choice or wish to silence dissenters from arguing with your point of view by saying they only have a binary choice. ;)

Posted 12 months ago #
gramarye
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columbusmike said:
Current zoning laws forbid warehouses from being in residential areas. It was purely done to prevent unsightly factory buildings from being around people's houses. You are also responsible for keeping sidewalks in good repair on your property. Is that giving up liberty too? :)

Technically, yes.

I know what you are saying, and I think it's a great/fun discussion. I think you either believe that someone has the right to do whatever they want with their property, or you believe that your property is part of the greater public sphere and you have some responsibility to that public sphere by owning property.

I believe both of the above, and further, I believe the third leg of that triangle--that the greater public sphere has some responsibility to you as a property owner, and that that responsibility includes not trying to dictate every little thing you can and can't do with it.

But certainly, I believe that requiring people to have sidewalks is appropriate, just as I am perfectly fine requiring people to have working water and sewer access, a functioning toilet, and so forth.

I have a lot more problem with you get into larger zoning concerns than that, and even more when there are more level of vetoes over planned development--area or historic commissions, that kind of thing. Urbanists may salivate at the concept of form-based zoning codes (and I admit they have as much appeal for me as any zoning code), but the same authority that can be used to enact a form-based zoning code can also be used to limit density, i.e., encourage sprawl.

Posted 12 months ago #
Walker
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Fun photo I took this evening with the skyline in the background almost looking as if it's emerging from the rubble being cleared for the Giant Eagle. It almost makes you think that this is an urban area. ;)

Posted 11 months ago #
tonloc620
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I stand corrected. The city of Columbus says there are approximately 1000 parking spaces and that this complies with the new le recommended parking requirements. Still I think the issue is not even necasserily the number of spaces but the site design. If I can figure it out I will post the site plans.

Posted 11 months ago #
Pablo
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tonloc620 said:
I stand corrected. The city of Columbus says there are approximately 1000 parking spaces and that this complies with the new le recommended parking requirements. Still I think the issue is not even necasserily the number of spaces but the site design. If I can figure it out I will post the site plans.

The site plans are posted back on page 16.

Posted 11 months ago #
Walker
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Grandview Heights Makes Plans for The Future
Published on May 29, 2012
By: Walker

We had the opportunity recently to sit down with Grandview Heights Mayor Ray DeGraw to discuss the current issues that the city faces, the types of new development that they hope to attract, and what type of approach is taken with making Grandview a welcoming community to all types of people. Our full interview is below:

READ MORE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/grandview-heights-makes-plans-for-the-future

Posted 11 months ago #
Walker
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Looks like the site is 100% cleared, and there's a great big mound of infill dirt on site. From here: http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-june-2012

Posted 10 months ago #
Jeffersin

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Riding by those mound hills of dirt reminded me of this...

Posted 10 months ago #
columbusmike

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gramarye said:
Urbanists may salivate at the concept of form-based zoning codes (and I admit they have as much appeal for me as any zoning code), but the same authority that can be used to enact a form-based zoning code can also be used to limit density, i.e., encourage sprawl.

Technically, yes, form-based codes could enforce sprawl just as easily as they could dictate density, if that's what the community wants. Form-based codes have more to do with ensuring predicable development patterns, rather than hodgepodge development. Predictable development helps developers, owners, and the community know exactly what is expected and what will be permitted....to avoid ambiguity and opinions. The codes are developed by the community, and not of a design review board, individual, or government.

Current zoning is actually much much more restrictive, because it only allows one type of use in certain areas - something that is entirely inflexible in changing economic times (generally, you can't change a house into an office because of zoning, even if the market demands it). Form-based codes are super flexible, because it allows for a wide range of uses. There is actually argument that if this country had form-based zoning, we would not have seen the significant vacancy of commercial space around the country in 2008 because much of that property could have easily been converted to apartments, etc.

Posted 10 months ago #
futureman
Grandview Heights
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Looks like construction is beginning now. Signs have gone saying the site is a hard hat zone and utility works appears to be starting.

From the marked out stakes it looks like the site is going forward as originally proposed.

It's a competition between Tribecca and this grocery store for who has the worst street presence on 3rd...

FYI "fortress" Tribeca so far:

Posted 10 months ago #
GCrites80s
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It's like going past the side of the Pen when I was little.

Posted 10 months ago #
jpizzow
Above the American Apparel building
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Good God almighty, that looks terrible. Tack on another epic fail. It's this inclusive type urban developement that really chaps my ass. The apts should have faced the street with a 20'+/- setback with the garages at the back of the complex. Ugh!

Posted 10 months ago #
jpizzow
Above the American Apparel building
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FYI "fortress" Tribeca so far:

Posted 10 months ago #
surber17

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I do wonder how Columbus let this go through as is.

Posted 10 months ago #