michaelcoyote
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Every artist is a rip off of every other artist who came before them! Sound the alarms!
Edit: If von was just trolling with that comment then I would say that von is a ripoff of ndcent.your first statement may be true, MAY but it you're going to rip someone off, give credit where credit is due.
I'd rather they just graduate to doing more interesting and individual work..
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I'll also say that I don't think Vinchen is a straight up ripoff of Banksy..
That's a pretty harsh assessment I think.. I just think that they could be better about differentiating themself with more interesting work.
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michaelcoyote wrote >>
I'll also say that I don't think Vinchen is a straight up ripoff of Banksy..
That's a pretty harsh assessment I think.. I just think that they could be better about differentiating themself with more interesting work.
Yeah I don't think that ripoff sums it up correctly. Influenced by is a given due tot he nature of his work. every artist has influences that come directly from art history books as well as the current artists of the time. I see major differences in the application betweent he two artists.
Also to speak on the point of all stencil artists being the same. I guess I will agree that there are differences, but oon traditional one, two, and three color stencil artists there are only so many ways to tweak that process to distinguish yourself.
Just like the artist refrenced that uses found objects as stencils. I also use this method often in my work, but I consider this a part of my process and not being a stencil artist. I also use stencils often in my work, bbt would never consider myself a stencil artist. I actually in my case consider it more of a cross over from my graphic design background. This mostly due to the fact I design what becomes my stencils on a computer and then have a machine cut them. So I feel that by taking the human element out of cutting the stencil it becomes more of a process in the end than a definition of my style or what have you. So yes agreed stencil artists vary in process, visuals, and messages/content. However the theory and application of stencils is limited by nature and design.
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Ok, looking at the Vinchen site, I can see that they did the Bert & Ernie "Get used to it" peice that I like and the "Uncle Sam" in the SN.. Definitely showing more of an individual style than some of the other stuff.. I can only hope they keep moving in their own direction..
I do like the billboard stuff and the pay to rest piece.. Good stuff there..
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There could be plenty more detourning of advertisements i think..
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DOWN WITH FREE SPEECH!
Columbus Underground will silence you!!
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Nitsud Regnifloh
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no good reason? being silenced is a damn good reason. Cookie can run her mouth at people for anything she wants, i comment about a thread, legitimately, and get things deleted.
f this site and your open-mindedness (with conditions)
i know this will bring me a banning, but it really is getting old people. i write 1 or 2 sentences with my thoughts and am accused of "trolling" when i just dont have the time to write a fucking essay bc i work. i dont troll around on the internet looking for a fight, i just plain disagree with you.
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TOS: http://www.columbusunderground.com/tos
The part of the conversation removed was done so because of the personal insults. Free speech is great and all, but when you start flinging hateful insults around you start closing doors for people who want to participate in a conversation.
Please keep it civil. And then I don't have to step in and moderate. And we can all be happy about that.
Nitsud Regnifloh
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that's bc you highjacked the thread.
Walker
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von wrote >>
i know this will bring me a banning, but it really is getting old people. i write 1 or 2 sentences with my thoughts and am accused of "trolling" when i just dont have the time to write a fucking essay bc i work. i dont troll around on the internet looking for a fight, i just plain disagree with you.
I'm not banning you or anyone else. I'm just asking you all to chill out for a second and cut out the personal insults. We're all adults here.
And if you're referring to me, I never called you a troll. I said that "if you were trolling" then I was falling for it and was making a backup joke comment to follow up my comment where I was taking you seriously.
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for anyone who thinks Vinchen isnt HEAVILY influenced by Bansky, please check out both websites. i know for a fact that Banksy's has been the same for years, Vinchen i am not so sure.
i do wonder what the meaning of the straw in Goodale Park pond is though??
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well I guess me, kbear, and michaelcoyote will have to talk about culture/art in a PM to avoid verbal vomit thats off topic. Somehow the graffiti threads always end up like this!!
thanks Walker for removing those refrences about Cookie. They were way uncalled for.
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