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jbcmh81

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-Nick- said:
Nobody is stopping your relationship from occurring...that's my point. Raising a huge deal out of it is pretty...well..pathetic. From there, it extrapolates into legal and financial issues...then blown out of proportion more into a discrimination issue...and so forth. Ultimately, it just becomes one big bantered clusterf and an enormous waste of time. That's coming from an atheist with no plans of marriage, so I'm obviously not against or for the issue. It is what it is. Quit the bantering, go outside, watch the sun rise, and go live your life as usual. Nobody is stopping you besides yourself.

It's pathetic to want equality? You are in over your head, it's best to bow out now before you say something even more ridiculous.

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joshlapp
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-Nick- said:
Good point. I'm raising a huge deal simply because people are acting bewildered by the ideology that their raising of a huge deal isn't such a big deal in reality.

It goes back to what I said earlier. Don't start a clusterf in the first place.

And of course its not a big deal to you. It is however a big deal to those who it directly effects. I'm sure you have your own issue that you consider to be important which many of us couldn't care less about.

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Walker
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-Nick- said:
It seems like an absolutely pointless and fruitless debate of "we're going to fight this, just to fight this!!!", but hey that's just me.

You're assuming that you know what everyone's motivations are behind supporting something like gay marriage, and you're assuming that everyone's motivations are one and the same.

You're completely entitled to your own opinion, but you don't really get to define other people's opinions. That's kind of like arguing with an imaginary friend.

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bman
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-Nick- said:
......both of which are exaggerated...especially the legal side. Personally, I'd just deal with and would CHOOSE to deal with it as opposed to backdooring into the christian marriage concept.

As a side note, if finances and legality are important factors in your relationship whether it be straight, gay, or whatever, you might want to reconsider.

Having a loved one that is not a blood relative next to you during a difficult time or to make life and death decisions might not be important to you but it is to most people. You work on your relationships and allow us to work on ours.

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-Nick- said:
backdooring into the christian marriage concept.

the gays...would they still fight it just as hard?

titter, titter,tee hee, tea he? calling Dr. Freud

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DeWine rejects same-sex marriage amendment
By Alan Johnson
The Columbus Dispatch
Friday March 9, 2012 3:55 PM

A proposed constitutional amendment to undo Ohio's 2004 same-sex marriage ban was rejected today by Attorney General Mike DeWine. DeWine said he found three flaws in the proposal submitted last week by a coalition that supports same-sex marriage.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/03/09/dewine-rejects-same-sex-marriage-amendment.html

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bman
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Article says 2013 election. An off year election might be our best bet this early in the process.

The raging right wing will be fired up in Ohio this year to beat our muslim black President and then next year again to beat the dirty, not normal fags. Gotta love the right wing.

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MichaelC
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Ah, the GOP: Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.

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News said:
DeWine rejects same-sex marriage amendment
By Alan Johnson
The Columbus Dispatch
Friday March 9, 2012 3:55 PM

A proposed constitutional amendment to undo Ohio's 2004 same-sex marriage ban was rejected today by Attorney General Mike DeWine. DeWine said he found three flaws in the proposal submitted last week by a coalition that supports same-sex marriage.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/03/09/dewine-rejects-same-sex-marriage-amendment.html

Hopefully they work out the wording in the proposal so the AG can approve it and it can go forward. It would be nice for Ohio to finally allow same-sex marriages.

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Ohio group aims to overturn same-sex marriage ban
6:10 PM, Mar. 26, 2012
From USA TODAY

COLUMBUS, Ohio (WTW) — Supporters of a measure that would allow gay marriage in Ohio have resubmitted paperwork with the state after their initial filing was rejected. The group Freedom to Marry Ohio seeks to repeal and replace a 2004 state constitutional amendment that says Ohio only recognizes a marriage between a man and a woman. Their proposal seeks to allow two consenting adults to enter into marriage regardless of gender.

READ MORE: http://www.coshoctontribune.com/usatoday/article/38895243?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFrontpage%7Cp

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DeWine certifies proposed same-sex marriage amendment
By Alan Johnson
The Columbus Dispatch
Tuesday April 3, 2012 1:47 PM

On the second try, a proposed amendment to repeal Ohio’s same-sex marriage ban has been certified by Attorney General Mike DeWine.

DeWine concluded today that the petition submitted last week by the Freedom To Marry Ohio coalition contained the requisite 1,000 valid signatures of Ohio registered voters and included a “ fair and truthful” summary of the proposed amendment.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/03/same-sex-ban-petition-certified.html

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Redistricting, gay marriage proposals clear hurdle
Updated: Friday, 06 Apr 2012, 6:58 AM EDT

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - A state panel has cleared supporters of proposed ballot issues to continue their efforts to amend the Ohio Constitution. One measure aims to take away elected officials' power to draw legislative and congressional districts. The proposal would put district mapmaking in the hands of a 12-person citizen commission intended to reflect Ohio's geographic, ethnic and political diversity.

READ MORE: http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/politics/state_politics/redistricting-gay-marriage-proposals-clear-hurdle

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Gay-rights group in Ohio shuns ballot issue to allow same-sex marriage
By Alan Johnson
The Columbus Dispatch
Wednesday April 11, 2012 7:25 AM

The state’s largest gay-rights advocacy organization doesn’t support a constitutional amendment to overturn the state’s same-sex marriage ban. Equality Ohio executive director Ed Mullen said that although his 30,000-member organization is working toward the same goal, he’s concerned about “potential holes in the language” of the Freedom to Marry amendment. He said sufficient “research and analysis has not been done that would make this a successful effort.”

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/11/gay-rights-group-in-ohio-shuns-same-sex-marriage-ballot-issue.html

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peanutnozone
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So if this is passed, would this allow CIVIL marriage for the gays, or both civil AND religious marriage? I can't imagine a law sanctioning a religious entity to change something really pivotal like this, but I wanted to make sure what this would impact as I have talked about this with people before. I don't want a church to allow another man and I to get hitched; I would just want the legal recognition so benefits, hospital visitation, etc. would be something I could be entitled to with a same-sex spouse.

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Twixlen
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peanutnozone said:
So if this is passed, would this allow CIVIL marriage for the gays, or both civil AND religious marriage? I can't imagine a law sanctioning a religious entity to change something really pivotal like this, but I wanted to make sure what this would impact as I have talked about this with people before. I don't want a church to allow another man and I to get hitched; I would just want the legal recognition so benefits, hospital visitation, etc. would be something I could be entitled to with a same-sex spouse.

Marriage is the legal construct - it doesn't matter where the ceremony/service/whatever takes place. A church will always have the right to refuse a couple from being married there, regardless of reason. "Religious marriage" isn't a thing - there is no paper from the church that is a legal document.

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Lawsuit Challenges Appeal To Ohio's Same-Sex Marriage Ban
Saturday April 14, 2012 8:20 AM

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine was given 21 days to respond to a new lawsuit on Friday that questioned the legitimacy of an amendment to overturn Ohio's ban on same-sex marriage. The amendment was approved last month by the board of elections and the Ohio Attorney General's Office after petitions were submitted by the group "Freedom To Marry," 10TV's Danielle Elias reported.

READ MORE: http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2012/04/14/columbus-lawsuit-challenges-appeal-to-state-same-sex-marriage-ban.html

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bman
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Gays are so evil! We are trying to destroy straight Christian marriage!

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DeWine defends allowing ballot petition on same-sex marriage
By Catherine Candisky
The Columbus Dispatch
Tuesday May 1, 2012 7:48 AM

State Attorney General Mike DeWine has urged the Ohio Supreme Court to dismiss a lawsuit against his office by opponents of same-sex marriage, arguing that the court has no jurisdiction in the hot-button dispute. The Ohio Campaign to Protect Marriage sued last month, challenging DeWine’s approval of the wording on a ballot amendment proposed by Freedom to Marry Ohio.

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/05/01/dewine-defends-ballot-issue.html

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Effort Underway To Repeal Ohio Same-Sex Marriage Ban
By: TOM BROCKMAN | NBC4
Published: May 08, 2012

Another state has now joined Ohio in banning same sex marriage. Preliminary results indicate voters in North Carolina have approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage only as being between a man and a woman. If the results hold up, North Carolina would become the 30th state to pass such a ban. Ohio passed a similar ban in 2004.

READ MORE: http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2012/may/08/4/effort-underway-repeal-ohio-same-sex-marriage-ban-ar-1029454/

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Taz Devil

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It will never pass in this Shitburgh.

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