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Well, if she is the owner and the she has the rights to the property and its development, it would seem to me that all interested parties should try to work with her for a resolution that will benefit the neighborhood and get results. Isn't the goal to get "real" improvements and development the property? Once again, who here has the money to purchase the property outright (and that means today) even for the value on the Auditor's site ($189,000)? I'm not talking about a "deal" where the owner has to finance the property (because if you've got the money or the appropriate financing from a bank, she shouldn't have to become a mortgagor). Plus, once the property is purchased, who has the 10-20 million dollars in their pocket TODAY to develop the property based on the lovely plans located on the Friends of Franklin Park Trolley Barn site? The answer: no one.
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Franklin Park Trolley Barn
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heresthecasey
Funkytown
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Code violations out the wazoo.
Multiple court orders.
Contempt charges.
Refusal to engage with the neighborhood, or work with Columbus Compact, the city, the courts etc.
Dragging this same shit out for years and years waiting for a big payday.
Inability to even seal the property properly, secure the buildings' structure, clean debris, settle criminal complaints, etc.
The list goes on... I have little faith in a notorious slumlord to be sincerely interested in working for the betterment of this property, or the neighborhood.
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Concerned
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Heresthecasey, you seem to know a lot about the owner's personal business. How do you know she's waiting for a big payday? Based on information from Columbus Compact, they entered into a contract to purchase the property and didn't execute the contract. Plus their own website shows that the owner allowed them to enter the property for a planning sessions and to get a grant, along with the City, to get a 2011 grant from the State for a business plan and feasibility study. So, your statement "Refusal to engage with the neighborhood, or work with Columbus Compact, the city, the courts etc." is highly inaccurate, to say the least. What is sad is that there are people out there who want to put out misinformation to further their own agendas. It's SO obvious there's something personal between you and the owner. Work it out or get over it...because if you are TRULY interested in improving the property and not personal attacks, you would focus your efforts elsewhere.
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heresthecasey
Funkytown
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Concerned said:
It's SO obvious there's something personal between you and the owner. Work it out or get over it...
Dude. Get over yourself.
As Snarf and others have put it, "It's clear she hasn't kept it up to code and it's shameful she maintains it the way she does. That is the agenda, nothing more."
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NDaEast
Near East Side
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Jon Beard. Live in Franklin Park (13 years). Run Columbus Compact Corporation (17 years). Developed Sherman Oak Condominiums 6 blocks away, taking building with demolition orders and turning it into beautiful market-rate apartments. Developed Old National Road Condominiums, taking 5 vacant/abandoned historic homes on E. Main Street turning them into the first LEED-Gold historic rehabs in Ohio (market rate). Rehabbed vacant/abandoned/foreclosed Engine House No. 11 at 1000 E. Main Street. Developed property and brought first new grocery store in 26 years into the Near East Area. I like playing a part in turning big, old uglies into historic neighborhood showpieces.
Have been trying to help save that property for the last five or six years. Owner has been given offers ranging from outright purchase, to land contract, to owner-financing, to staying in the deal as an equity partner. Every proposed deal has been sweet to her, including the current proposal of owner financing -- which is the only way she can come out financially ahead. Every other realistic development/financial scenario has her continuing to lose money without being able to invest in the properties. She is looking for an exhorbitant premium for a building with demoliton orders, at a time when the market has bottom feeders.
The most distressing thing is not just that the property won't be devleoped, but that its failure will be an even bigger financial loss to the owner than anyh other alternative ... this is truly cut off your nose to spite your face behavior. I would love to be proven wrong.
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Snarf
Dystopia
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NDaEast said:
Jon Beard. Live in Franklin Park (13 years). Run Columbus Compact Corporation (17 years). Developed Sherman Oak Condominiums 6 blocks away, taking building with demolition orders and turning it into beautiful market-rate apartments. Developed Old National Road Condominiums, taking 5 vacant/abandoned historic homes on E. Main Street turning them into the first LEED-Gold historic rehabs in Ohio (market rate). Rehabbed vacant/abandoned/foreclosed Engine House No. 11 at 1000 E. Main Street. Developed property and brought first new grocery store in 26 years into the Near East Area. I like playing a part in turning big, old uglies into historic neighborhood showpieces.Have been trying to help save that property for the last five or six years. Owner has been given offers ranging from outright purchase, to land contract, to owner-financing, to staying in the deal as an equity partner. Every proposed deal has been sweet to her, including the current proposal of owner financing -- which is the only way she can come out financially ahead. Every other realistic development/financial scenario has her continuing to lose money without being able to invest in the properties. She is looking for an exhorbitant premium for a building with demoliton orders, at a time when the market has bottom feeders.
The most distressing thing is not just that the property won't be devleoped, but that its failure will be an even bigger financial loss to the owner than anyh other alternative ... this is truly cut off your nose to spite your face behavior. I would love to be proven wrong.
Bravo, Jon!
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Stephen43215
Downtown
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What a bitch..
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heresthecasey
Funkytown
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But, but, haven't you guys seen the Facebook page??
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Mercurius
First Avenue
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Below is why I call Minnie McGee a Slum Lord. Below are pictures and addresses of some other properties she owns and does not maintain:
731 LILLEY AVE
449 BARNETT RD
1332 E SIXTEENTH AVE
951 LINWOOD AVE
334 -336 WILSON AV
280-286S CHAMPION AV
804-808 BERKELEY RD
821-823 SEYMOUR AV
794 KELTON AV
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misskitty
Columbus
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Shit after seeing seven pages of properties she owns yea I'd say slum lady too. Only a few of her properties are maintained. This is the issue the city and judges drag their feet and until something tragic happens nothing is done. Oh I mean something does happen a few fines here and there but that’s it
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Concerned
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Jon, I commend your efforts and achievements to revitalize a part of Columbus. You mentioned you tried to work with the owner and that those efforts failed. Based on your comments, it appears the reason those efforts failed is because neither you nor your organization, the Columbus Compact Foundation, can afford to purchase the property outright. You cannot expect the owner of a property to finance your aspirations, no matter how noble the cause. Maybe she believes that if you cannot afford to purchase the property with your own financing or with funds from the Columbus Compact, you cannot guarantee that you will have the funds to develop the property. Looking at your website, your Facebook page, and other information gleaned from the Internet, she tried to work with you for years, even up through 2011, with the expectation that you would purchase the property. As you stated in your comments, she complied with orders to address issues as they arose. Ultimately, it appears that you launched a campaign to shame the owner into forcing her to finance your purchase of the property. Your comments, filled with comments such as “greedy,” “hoarder,” “bad owner,” and “come down hard on her” support this hypothesis. Remember, the Dispatch states that the case was “reopened based on your complaints from community members.” It’s your slander campaign that causes people to call the owner outside her name. Look at people listing "some of her properties" to support "your cause." Why not post all of them? Do you really have the inside track on her financial situation? Maybe she had to regroup and start planning on her own in 2011 after years of waiting for you to find the appropriate financing. The great thing about your “win-win” campaign is that ultimately, it will lead to development of the property, and this is what you wanted, right?
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misskitty
Columbus
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Concerned said:
Yeah, cause when you go to the point of having the time to go to the Auditor's website to post a private owner's selected properties, it really shows that the TRUE agenda is really NOT about the Franklin Park Trolley Barn.You right it’s about people that can’t maintain the property they own which directly ties into the Trolley Barn there called slum lords. As a matter of public records, this is not her first dealings with the city and courts.
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christylwilliams
Olde Towne East
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That property at 1004 Ellsworth is an absolute gem. From a tour via Google Maps, the rest of the street looks well-maintained with some visible pride of ownership. Shame to let it sit vacant.
Hey Minnie, why don't you sell it to me?
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