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hivner1 said:
This is another case of the city being ass backwards instead of forward thinking.
The city of Columbus? Or the neighborhood of Clintonville?
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Food Carts in Clintonville
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What!? Yerba Bueno is leaving Clintonville!?!? That really sucks.
We finally made it up there to try it out last night and the food was great! It was so exciting to find some new options an area which could seriously use a few more. Especially if it's done by the same people who do El Arapazo.
We rode our bikes over there, ate on site, and were impressed the steady the stream of traffic, which seemed to be mostly people on their way home from the office, and a few people from the neighborhood. During our 40 minutes there, there was always a line and people waiting (not for long though) for their carry out orders.
I love Clintonville, but if there's one thing I do lament, it's the lack of vibrant dining options. It's sad when people come from out of town and the only place in Clinonville where we can get a nice meal and a glass of wine on a patio is Northstar (nothing against Northstar, of course). I have such great hopes for the potential of Clintonville, so seeing glimmers of that potential stamped out is sad :(
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itinerantfoodie
Columbus
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I've decided to run for CAC, as the better food businesses candidate. I only have four requirements to start this move into public office:
1. No one can say or think mean things about me.
2. No one can look into my history. (Especially my late teens and early twenties.)
3. Someone else has to raise my campaign money.
4. No public speaking.Posted 1 year ago # -
Twixlen
The Weston District
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itinerantfoodie said:
I've decided to run for CAC, as the better food businesses candidate. I only have four requirements to start this move into public office:1. No one can say or think mean things about me.
2. No one can look into my history. (Especially my late teens and early twenties.)
3. Someone else has to raise my campaign money.
4. No public speaking.Judging from my experience w the GHAC, you're a shoo-in. It ain't that hard to be elected.
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racheltb
northland
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I want to know what the complaint(s?) is. Is it scary pedestrian traffic again? Colorful signage? Unfamiliar latin food?
I could complain about a lot in Clintonville with more merit.. Imagine if someone told Mr. Flynt that his store had to go somewhere else because of a single complaint.
The trick to winning CAC is hosting breakfast on a party bus that drives people to the polls on the ridiculous month-apart Saturday morning voting...
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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racheltb said:
I want to know what the complaint(s?) is. Is it scary pedestrian traffic again? Colorful signage? Unfamiliar latin food?I was under the impression that the complaint is that every dollar spent at a food truck is a dollar not spent at a full-time brick-and-mortar business.
Which in terms of mexican/latin food Clintonville means... uh... the Taco Bell at Hudson?
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Corrin Radd
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La Patrona? Chipotle?
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hungrywoolf
Victorian Village
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I very much doubt Chipotle is worried about Yerba Buena and it's almost 2 miles from La Patrona up to Yerba Buena's current location.
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RobWoodClintonville
Clintonville
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I am a CAC commissioner for the southern district and do not share DeFourny's views about food trucks. Jennifer Kangas, CAC commissioner, recently wrote on Yerba Buena's Facebook, "I serve on the CAC and am very pro food truck." We are not all conservative hippies. (I liked that comment.)
I recommend the Yankee Cajun food truck at Crestview and Indianola (Crestview Tavern parking lot). While you're there, have a Legunitas, Two-Hearted or one of the other good beers on tap at the Crest. If you go on a Monday evening, stay for the music jam that starts around eight.
See you tonight at the Columbus Commons Food Truck and Cart Festival!
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John McCollum
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The CAC is out of touch with the needs and desires of Clintonville residents. They resist alcohol. They resist food carts. No resistance to Hustler and payday loans. But a food cart? That degrades the neighborhood. Tone deaf, I say.
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hivner1
clintonville
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forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, but the dispatch took note of Yerba Buena's situation: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/08/27/food-truck-to-move-overnight-parking-breaks-rule.html
I wonder who would possibly complain about having a food cart in a vacant lot. There is only one response to the worry that food carts will potentially siphon business from area restaurants- compete! Northstar, Babushka's and Ying's are the only substitutes that I can think of, and neither of them are "threatened." That is the only direct competition... I think. Smith's Deli and Panera are inferior goods with loyal clientele. Jeni's is a complementary good that depends on restaurants surrounding them. And there you have it, all of the restaurants between North Broadway and Morse Rd. Not a big code-red list.
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hivner1
clintonville
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Walker said:
The city of Columbus? Or the neighborhood of Clintonville?I guess I should qualify my rants. If they city cares, they should step in. Further, the enforement of these silly codes for the mere sake of enforcement is growing a little old (ala Gay St patio issue). It's only a violation if someone complains? What kind of policy is that?
Why does a neighborhood commission have such control? Maybe the voices are overrepresented by those of us who want some change, and perhaps the majority of life-long Cville residents want everything to stay the same. Are there mechanisms to help determine who is overrepresenting (the CAC, or, people that bitch and moan like me)?
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hivner1
clintonville
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hivner1 said:
As long as they don't serve evil booze! It is interesting that a few realtors control so much of the property in Clintonville. Is it unique that they also live in Clintonville and are major Clintonville boosters?With all this resistance, perhaps some speakeasy trucks may pop up disguised as city trucks, always on the move, and serving boooooooze! Cant stop the black market!
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rory
Weinland Park
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hivner1 said:
Why does a neighborhood commission have such control? Maybe the voices are overrepresented by those of us who want some change, and perhaps the majority of life-long Cville residents want everything to stay the same. Are there mechanisms to help determine who is overrepresenting (the CAC, or, people that bitch and moan like me)?
voting?
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ElizaSmith236
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Has anyone heard YERBA BUENA is looking to move Across from NORTHSTAR CAFE? If so, who would you pick to eat? Definitely YB for the meal and NC for the wine, dessert & awesome patio!
mazzyD said:
With the growing number and variety of Food Carts in Columbus, some of them are finding their way to Clintonville.The chairman of the Clintonville Area Commission spoke to the papers this week to say he is concerned about the effect that food carts may have on the neighborhood.
Mobile eateries concern CAC chairman
http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/clintonville/stories/2011/06/15/mobile-eateries-concern-cac-chairman.html?sid=104"They can drain hundreds of dollars to thousands of dollars of the available food market," DeFourny said. "These are low-rent coming and competing with the high-rent, higher-employee, fixed-building, and that's one of the concerns."
Rad Dog and Ray-Ray's Hog Pit are some of the better known carts in Clintonville. What other carts are already in the neighborhood? What would you like to see come to the neighborhood?
Should Clintonville encourage more food carts or is the CAC on the path to limiting/banning food carts?
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danhickman
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Yay! Rabble rousing:
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ElizaSmith236
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Over a dozen liquor permits were granted a few yrs back for C-vill. So WTF? Sounds like some developers can't get their xxxx off the ground.
meltsintowonder said:
How do you figure? There are three sites which were granted liquor permits quite a while back that are sitting empty. Northstar opened up recently on what was a long vacant lot that sat for years with a beer (and I think wine) license.
Honestly, I think that most of Clintonville people just aren't go-out-to-eat people.
And +1 on Walker's take.Exactly my point, you're naming 3 specific sites in Clintonville. I think that would quailify as a limit on alcohol. My thing is that Cville would benefit from having a few blocks that each had 2-3 restaurants. To achieve that I think they would all need to serve liquor. I get your point on Northstar, but honestly NS is a pretty specialized restaurant and it's not like there's a bar in there. I doubt much of their business relys on alcohol sales.
The sites approved for alcohol (not necessarily a license) were owned by a developer looking into getting other businesses into their spaces, but if you have to go through a ballot to get a liquor license, it's easier to take business elsewhere. It's less risky to get a lease in another area with no licenses and then just buy one on the open market. So the scenario is an example of why things aren't right for bringing in more restaurants and bars to Clintonville.
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