so me and dredd were at Garage Bar last night and the owner of Lucky's was sitting next to us. we started talking about the area and how it was starting to come up and he mentioned the fenced off lot on the corner of 9th and High. i couldn't believe this but he told me they were thinking of putting an extended stay hotel with ground floor retail/restaurant space. i for one think the location is a little odd for something like that, but if the area were more built up, who knows. it is close to the medical center and law school and close to SCG. anyways, i think this was either a rumor or maybe an old plan and i can't remember who he heard it from. either way, i'd like to see that site get developed with affordable apartments, 200-300 of them.
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I am pretty sure a 200-300 apartment building would be f***ing huge. For reference the building our store is in has 20 above it. In any event. I think cleaning up the area between the short north and campus would be one of the best decisions (I know. Streetcar...) our city could make. It's weird that there is no feeling of connectivity between these two areas that should linked. I am so excited about how many areas in our city are truly up and coming. I can't wait to see it all five years from now.
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Tigertree wrote I am pretty sure a 200-300 apartment building would be f***ing huge. For reference the building our store is in has 20 above it. In any event. I think cleaning up the area between the short north and campus would be one of the best decisions (I know. Streetcar...) our city could make. It's weird that there is no feeling of connectivity between these two areas that should linked. I am so excited about how many areas in our city are truly up and coming. I can't wait to see it all five years from now.
it would be about the size of ibiza with small units. (more like 200 units) the only question is, could a developer get the green light to build something that tall. i know it will probably never happen but it's nice to dream.
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as an aside, Lucky's always makes me wish I was 21 and had nothing to do all day after classes. perhaps it's the sudsy sign, or the large patio/beer garden area, but it just is a classic little campus place. unfortunately school is about to be in session and i will avoid it for the next 10-months.
as for the apartments, i was just in Urbana/Champaign and West Lafayette this week. i could not believe the pace of mixed used development going in to each area around the campuses. for that matter, toss in the development around Illinois State in Normal. but U Illinois in particular has 10+ story high rise apartments with ground floor retail going in all along the green street corridor.
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I was recently in Ann Arbor as well and had a similar experience. Not as much on the high rises thing, but the mixed use developments that intersect with campus. I was really impressed with the caliber of shops that were, essentially, on campus.
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Tigertree wrote I think cleaning up the area between the short north and campus would be one of the best decisions (I know. Streetcar...) our city could make. It's weird that there is no feeling of connectivity between these two areas that should linked.
Do not fear Tigertree! NoFi is coming along. More and more people are moving in to the southern side (around King Ave) and fixing up their houses and half-doubles. As the residents make improvements and take care of their properties the push will come for the area along High to do the same. I have a wish list a mile long and the building and dead space around it that used to be Industry Standard is certainly on it. That whole thing just aggrivates me to no end!!
PS - the streetcar would have been nice, but we can do it without. Where's my non-ghetto Kroger for starts!?!
Edited because last time I checked "frear" is not a word.
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brings up 2 points that aren't directly related to each other:
1. i think the campus area here actually suffers from the fact that it is in a much larger city. in places like A2, U-C, and West Lafayette, the campus area is the driving economic area and cultural area. There is by and large no Short North, German Village, Easton, Polaris, etc... that draws away from the central campus area. i know there are pockets such as around Zingerman's in A2, but by and large these cities still retain a university town status.
2. some people complain that the issue with Gateway is that it is too expensive for college students or doesn't have a college town feel. that quite simply is an antiquated view of universities and their environs. large scale and upmarket mixed used development is how all large campuses are going and there is a student driven demand (not all, but a sizeable and affluent cohort) for this type of development, especially on the housing side.
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+1 to Dru. You're so smart!!
I also agree that campuses (successful ones) are changing. The area around Georgetown U has a great business district. And it's a pretty affluent one that draws in more than just students.
I see the Gateway's potential to be a great asset to my neighborhood with the right tenants at the right times. After midnight on a Fri or Sat, probably not, but catching a movie on a Sunday afternoon, you betcha. Wouldn't mind being able to do a little shopping while I'm there at (gasp!) The Gap or J Crew or something like that. :wink:
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Well, to be harsh, I think a lot of the places that went down in the gateway for bad decisions as much as the development itself or rent.
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Tigertree wrote Well, to be harsh, I think a lot of the places that went down in the gateway for bad decisions as much as the development itself or rent.
you do have to ask yourself, was there a business plan?
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somertimeoh wrote
Tigertree wrote I think cleaning up the area between the short north and campus would be one of the best decisions (I know. Streetcar...) our city could make. It's weird that there is no feeling of connectivity between these two areas that should linked.
Do not fear Tigertree! NoFi is coming along. More and more people are moving in to the southern side (around King Ave) and fixing up their houses and half-doubles. As the residents make improvements and take care of their properties the push will come for the area along High to do the same. I have a wish list a mile long and the building and dead space around it that used to be Industry Standard is certainly on it. That whole thing just aggrivates me to no end!!
PS - the streetcar would have been nice, but we can do it without. Where's my non-ghetto Kroger for starts!?!
Edited because last time I checked "frear" is not a word.
Jo and I have been looking at houses in that area lately.
Prices are rising fast. Very very fast.
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In some instances I think there may have been too much of one. Small retail is more about trusting your gut and making big changes than sticking to your guns. I see a lot of stores fall into the trap of believing in their initial concept so much that they will not realize they are riding it down.
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Daz wrote Jo and I have been looking at houses in that area lately.
Prices are rising fast. Very very fast.
Oh darn it! I think the 2/2 in my building just sold. I know there's a small 1 br above me going up but I think y'alls place is kinda roomy and there's no yard access from the unit so I know that's not an option.
I know there are some places on, or a block off, King that are being reno'd right now. It might be worth a shot to go bug them and see what their plan is. You never know, might be willing to unload for cheaper to not have to do finishing - paint, carpet, etc.
I'd love to get one of those big houses on Smith, Hunter, or Highland, but like you said, it's now or never if I really want that. Such great architectural gems hidden over here. I think we've got a good lot of homes that, if converted back to single family, can rival Vicky Village and the Circles with the right buyers.
I hope y'all find something. I really love the neighborhood, I think it's going to be something really special sooner than people think!!
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