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Started 2 years ago by JimSweeney
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JimSweeney
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please forgive if this has already been covered here...
What do you regard as the edges of downtown Columbus? of course i'm personally most interested in the western edge, but...is the main library downtown? how about Nationwide arena? COSI?

Posted 2 years ago #
Walker
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Most maps I've seen are 670 to the North, 71 to the East, 70/71 to the South and the railroad tracks (or sometimes 315) to the West.

Those boundaries are fairly huge though, and include neighborhoods that don't "feel" like Downtown such as the Discovery District, Eastern Franklinton, or the residential area around Town/Washington.

I think the Central Business District can be bounded almost by the "Mile on High" zone, which is a closer representation of real "Downtown" boundaries.

Posted 2 years ago #
dru
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i know that when you read about downtown housing in the Dispatch, it often doesn't include the Arena District. I've always thought of that area, including down past the baseball stadium to the Buggyworks as downtown. i'd also say that the Discovery District is downtown.

so I guess my borders would be:
670 to the North
70/71 to the south
71 to the east
Scioto/Olentangy to the west

Posted 2 years ago #
labi
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Walker wrote >>
Most maps I've seen are 670 to the North, 71 to the East, 70/71 to the South and the railroad tracks (or sometimes 315) to the West.
Those boundaries are fairly huge though, and include neighborhoods that don't "feel" like Downtown such as the Discovery District...

Could you be more specific about why the Discovery District doesn't "feel like Downtown"? (apart from the dumb name...)

Posted 2 years ago #
Manatee
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Walker wrote >>
Most maps I've seen are 670 to the North, 71 to the East, 70/71 to the South and the railroad tracks (or sometimes 315) to the West.
Those boundaries are fairly huge though, and include neighborhoods that don't "feel" like Downtown such as the Discovery District, Eastern Franklinton, or the residential area around Town/Washington.

I've always felt like all that stuff was downtown. Could be because I went to CCAD and walked everywhere though.

Posted 2 years ago #
10sun
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Personally I feel as though the Discovery district is not part of down town.
The major geographic boundaries are what I consider to be downtown (670, 71, 70/71, & the river) because they limit the travel paths.

Posted 2 years ago #
Walker
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labi wrote >>
Could you be more specific about why the Discovery District doesn't "feel like Downtown"? (apart from the dumb name...)

I'm mostly speaking in general terms, but many people associate the "Downtown" areas of other cities directly with their main "Central Business District", which is where the skyscrapers and other taller office buildings are located.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_business_district

The Discovery District is a dense, urban area, but in any other city it would probably have it's own distinct identity and not be considered a part of the proper "Downtown" (ie: Central Business District) area.

The boundaries of Downtown Columbus are relatively large compared to other urban cities. I wonder how much would change in terms of our challenges and opportunities if we were to redraw our boundaries and reconsider what we actually define as being "Downtown".

Posted 2 years ago #
DavidF
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10sun wrote >>
Personally I feel as though the Discovery district is not part of down town.
The major geographic boundaries are what I consider to be downtown (670, 71, 70/71, & the river) because they limit the travel paths.

Don't those boundaries include the Discovery District? Or am I just confused?

btw, those are the same boundaries I've always used when I think of downtown.

Posted 2 years ago #
lifeliberty
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North border : nationwide

South: Livingston or 70/71 split

East: 71 or Parsons

West : River or Marconi Blvd

Posted 2 years ago #
10sun
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DavidF wrote >>

10sun wrote >>
Personally I feel as though the Discovery district is not part of down town.
The major geographic boundaries are what I consider to be downtown (670, 71, 70/71, & the river) because they limit the travel paths.

Don't those boundaries include the Discovery District? Or am I just confused?
btw, those are the same boundaries I've always used when I think of downtown.

Sorry, I was still fuzzy from no caffeine yet.

I meant the Cosi area. Cosi = Science = Discovery magazine.

Posted 2 years ago #
DavidF
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10sun wrote >>

DavidF wrote >>

10sun wrote >>
Personally I feel as though the Discovery district is not part of down town.
The major geographic boundaries are what I consider to be downtown (670, 71, 70/71, & the river) because they limit the travel paths.

Don't those boundaries include the Discovery District? Or am I just confused?
btw, those are the same boundaries I've always used when I think of downtown.

Sorry, I was still fuzzy from no caffeine yet.
I meant the Cosi area. Cosi = Science = Discovery magazine.

Well at least I'm not as dumb as I thought.

Posted 2 years ago #
alove
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Walker wrote >>

labi wrote >>
Could you be more specific about why the Discovery District doesn't "feel like Downtown"? (apart from the dumb name...)

I'm mostly speaking in general terms, but many people associate the "Downtown" areas of other cities directly with their main "Central Business District", which is where the skyscrapers and other taller office buildings are located.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_business_district
The Discovery District is a dense, urban area, but in any other city it would probably have it's own distinct identity and not be considered a part of the proper "Downtown" (ie: Central Business District) area.
The boundaries of Downtown Columbus are relatively large compared to other urban cities. I wonder how much would change in terms of our challenges and opportunities if we were to redraw our boundaries and reconsider what we actually define as being "Downtown".

You're on to something Walker!
I think it would be much easier to continue to address problems downtown if it weren't so massive.
Also, a little off topic but if Columbus ever does build more high-rises, I would like them to be in the central business district (with the other giants) rather than spread throughout (to help with density where it's needed, yet protect our big-open feel elsewhere)

And I feel if I don't say anything buildings will continue to pop up far away from each other.

Posted 2 years ago #
JimSweeney
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Walker wrote
The boundaries of Downtown Columbus are relatively large compared to other urban cities. I wonder how much would change in terms of our challenges and opportunities if we were to redraw our boundaries and reconsider what we actually define as being "Downtown".

I agree also. As a matter of fact I remember a few years back the city hired a famous planner/architect (Andres Duane was it?) to consult on the riverfront plan. I seem to remember that he said that what we consider to be our downtown -inside the freeways- is way too big for an economy our size. He said that for the inner-belt area to develop completely as a CBD we'd need an economy the size of London, England. he also used an overhead projector to illustrate that what are commonly considered to be the downtowns of Cleveland and Cincinnati would together fit into the inner-belt area of Columbus. Anyone else remember this presentation?

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