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My favorite bird-- cranes! Part 1. The last 25 seconds-- my god.
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My favorite birds-- cranes Part 2. Sheesh. If we could only get about 20 of these in DT Columbus. I will make no apologies for my skyline fetish.
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ilovethiscity
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Walker-
We must have been watching the same 60 Minutes program this evening.
I am enamored. A sommelier working in Dubai would not go begging.
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MikeReed
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Dubai projects while innovative, seem obscene to me.
I'm of the belief that development should serve more functional needs, rather than the whims of the rich. I understand tourism, but come on. The level of opulence and grotesque proportions of things like The Dubai Waterfront is ridiculous.
Take for instance... the 15-30+ million dollar islands available to a "select few" in The World project...
I also understand from watching the National Geographic show Megastructures (availalbe on youtube) that they work they did on The Palm islands disrupted regular sea currents and caused anomalous shoreline erosion at the rate of 30 feet a year in some areas- requiring 24/7 maintenance with sea floor sand drudging and moving sand. :roll:
Seems like the work of wealthy short-sight madmen to me...
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somertimeoh
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Yeah, I watched that segment on 60 minutes too. It is all very over the top, but I sure do love the indoor ski slope :)
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Mercurius
First Avenue
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What it will look like when done. My friend jasmine just moved to
http://www.dubailuxuryhomes.com/developments/index.asp
The Palm islands. They have two built and the world. They are building
the third palm island that will have the worlds 3rd tallest building on it. 37% of the cranes on earth are in that one city.
tallest building in the world at 193 stories. The tallest in Columbus I think is 40. Nearly 5x taller than anything here.
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gramarye
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It certainly could, but one of the good things about investment in real estate development is that there's still something physical there even if the market does tank. It's not like C.D.O.'s or other securitized investments that really are just paper and which can completely evaporate. The cranes might stop running, and tenants might get harder to find (or rents would have to drop, or both) but the buildings already built will still be there.
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myliftkk
Columbus, OH
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honavery wrote I also watched this on 60 minutes. It is cool, but it seems rather fragile. Like the bubble could burst at any moment.
Actually, if people read up more on Dubai other than just watch salacious video clips of their development of indoor ski slopes they would understand better what the "sultans" are trying to accomplish.
Prior to its discovery of oil, Dubai was an arabic fishing village, and given that the UAE has some of the smallest proven reserves of any OPEC country, they have accepted that their gold (or oil) mine will run dry at a specified point in the future. All of the development taking place there is them hedging their bets by creating an alternate economy engine, mainly around tourism, to power their country and provide for their people.
In fact, Dubai is building the second incarnation of the Louve, for all you artists out there. This is what it is planned to look like:
Just goes to show we shouldn't be hating on the Sultan's for doing what we ourselves would consider smart for any nation facing potential resource challenges. :D
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Mercurius
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honavery wrote I also watched this on 60 minutes. It is cool, but it seems rather fragile. Like the bubble could burst at any moment.
I've heard that their oil field is drying up and to replace it they are trying to become the tourist capital of the world. Vegas on steroids! They are building an airport 3 times the size of Atlanta’s! Don’t forget Dubai Land, which make Disney look like a turd floating in a cest pool. They also have no income or property taxes guaranteed for 50 years, so I think in just that alone it is in the best interest of the extreme rich to "locate their primary estate there." It has to be one of the least sustainable places I can imagine. In their defense they are building subways, but castles built from sand slip into the sea eventually (or islands in this case?)
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Mercurius
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Mercurius wrote
honavery wrote I also watched this on 60 minutes. It is cool, but it seems rather fragile. Like the bubble could burst at any moment.
I've heard that their oil field is drying up and to replace it they are trying to become the tourist capital of the world. Vegas on steroids! They are building an airport 3 times the size of Atlanta’s! Don’t forget Dubai Land, which make Disney look like a turd floating in a cest pool. They also have no income or property taxes guaranteed for 50 years, so I think in just that alone it is in the best interest of the extreme rich to "locate their primary estate there." It has to be one of the least sustainable places I can imagine. In their defense they are building subways, but castles built from sand slip into the sea eventually (or islands in this case?)
Really hit every link on this map- It is just insane! All most everything is being built, so its not like this is some pie in the sky of what it might be- this is it!
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myliftkk
Columbus, OH
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Mercurius wrote
honavery wrote I also watched this on 60 minutes. It is cool, but it seems rather fragile. Like the bubble could burst at any moment.
I've heard that their oil field is drying up and to replace it they are trying to become the tourist capital of the world. Vegas on steroids! They are building an airport 3 times the size of Atlanta’s! Don’t forget Dubai Land, which make Disney look like a turd floating in a cest pool. They also have no income or property taxes guaranteed for 50 years, so I think in just that alone it is in the best interest of the extreme rich to "locate their primary estate there." It has to be one of the least sustainable places I can imagine. In their defense they are building subways, but castles built from sand slip into the sea eventually (or islands in this case?)
Uh, somehow I think the Sultans might just be laughing at us all the way to the bank with our gas money, rather than vice-versa.
Abu Dhabi Explores Energy Alternatives
People can infer all of the negative stereotypes they desire based on Dhubai's rapid development, but fact remains that they are flush with cash (as opposed to us) and they aren't afraid to put that money to work to change their economy. Besides the "theme" parks reported on by starry eyed reporters, they are also investing in huge arts related projects (far beyond the Louve - part 2) that dwarf just about anything else anywhere in the world, have created huge investment funds to secure the welfare of their people, and as the article above points out are actively pursing scientific relationships with top universities in the world to kick start their sustainibility drive. What is it exactly that their leaders are doing that is so "slip into the sea" worthy? Is it because we deep down resent the fact that they don't go back to a bunch of turban-wearing arab fishermen while we sit here listening to empty "hopeful" platitudes about our future from our leaders?
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Here's Donald Trump's soon-to-be-built Dubai property on the Palm Island:
Why not "Trump Columbus?"
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Mercurius
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Uh, somehow I think the Sultans might just be laughing at us all the way to the bank with our gas money, rather than vice-versa.
Abu Dhabi Explores Energy Alternatives
People can infer all of the negative stereotypes they desire based on Dhubai's rapid development, but fact remains that they are flush with cash (as opposed to us) and they aren't afraid to put that money to work to change their economy. Besides the "theme" parks reported on by starry eyed reporters, they are also investing in huge arts related projects (far beyond the Louve - part 2) that dwarf just about anything else anywhere in the world, have created huge investment funds to secure the welfare of their people, and as the article above points out are actively pursing scientific relationships with top universities in the world to kick start their sustainibility drive. What is it exactly that their leaders are doing that is so "slip into the sea" worthy? Is it because we deep down resent the fact that they don't go back to a bunch of turban-wearing arab fishermen while we sit here listening to empty "hopeful" platitudes about our future from our leaders?
I've mostly been positive, I mean I think it is genius, but none the less build a megatropalis in the desert where there are no or limited resources other than oil, sand and salt water seems like a problem. but if you ask-
Well, it is a sheikdom not a democracy (i.e. no elections, no accountability, state can take anything as state owned at any time they want, extreme limited rights to foreign workers)
Super sprawling (all the problems that leads to)
Temperatures average from 120 in the summer to 95 in the winter (They have to cool the swimming pools )
hardly any agriculture at all (Try to live as a locavore in Dubai (good luck)
I mean jesus building a city where you can't drink the water or make food from the land seems like a problem.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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ilovethiscity wrote We must have been watching the same 60 Minutes program this evening.
Wow... nah, I didn't see it. I must have been reading peoples minds though. :lol:
MikeReed wrote Dubai projects while innovative, seem obscene to me.
I'm of the belief that development should serve more functional needs, rather than the whims of the rich.
I wasn't going to get into the issues of it (some of which are pretty serious) but yeah... it is a playground for the rich. Couldn't the same be said for any skyscraper though? Not just anyone can afford to work or live in the taller buildings of any city in the world.
Gawking at the pretty buildings is fun though.
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