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The Scioto River Greenway Redevelopment Plan - News & Updates
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Posted 1 year ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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seanguy wrote >>
By the plan presented, all of today's work would be scrapped and need to be redone. The historic retaining walls downtown I find to actually be pretty and have a European flare. They just refinished them this year and those would obviously be demolished.I don't think either is necessarily the case. There would need to be some additional work done to beautiful the new land created by the lowered water level, but my guess is that it would have minimum impact on the existing riverfront redevelopments underway.
seanguy wrote >>
I am all for greening our river, but downtown the current flow should remain.You do know those two statements don't really work together, right? ;)
Posted 1 year ago # -
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Walker wrote >>
seanguy wrote >>
By the plan presented, all of today's work would be scrapped and need to be redone. The historic retaining walls downtown I find to actually be pretty and have a European flare. They just refinished them this year and those would obviously be demolished.I don't think either is necessarily the case. There would need to be some additional work done to beautiful the new land created by the lowered water level, but my guess is that it would have minimum impact on the existing riverfront redevelopments underway.
seanguy wrote >>
I am all for greening our river, but downtown the current flow should remain.You do know those two statements don't really work together, right? ;)
What I mean is that I believe dams can be removed on other sections of the river and still retain the current flow downtown. Actions to clean the waterway, for example by removing raw sewage, are already underway and these would have the biggest impact on improving the overall health of the river.
In Downtown we have already spent much on greening projects. These can have an impact on economic growth, but there are many other projects/policies that we need to turn our attention to. From a cost/benefit (benefit being measured in downtown residential/office growth) most likely these other policies/expenditures have a larger benefit.
Second, from a beauty standpoint alone removing the dams downtown, and allowing a natural flow, would most likely involve removing the retaining wall that is historic and I believe looks great. The present river project has already provided more direct waterway interaction (with the removal of the wall along Bicentennial park). I think what we will be left with, after this current river project is finished, is the perfect combination of a natural flow downtown while preserving the existing retaining wall/blvd. concept.
For Columbus we need to keep our eyes on the river downtown, but we will achieve more benefit by turning our attention back to policies that can achieve office/entrepreneurial growth downtown. These have a more direct impact on creating jobs, luring more retail and downtown residents. If we want to undertake capital expenditures then focusing on the urban street level is the wisest (IE Gay St. two way conversion/transit options/etc.)
Posted 1 year ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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seanguy wrote >>
Second, from a beauty standpoint alone removing the dams downtown, and allowing a natural flow, would most likely involve removing the retaining wall that is historic and I believe looks great.Not quite an apples to apples comparison, as this retaining wall was in much poorer shape, but I believe a similar renovation can be just as effective throughout the rest of the riverfront Downtown:
That graphic is from here: http://msidesign.com/blog/index.php/north-bank-park-five-years-in
seanguy wrote >>
For Columbus we need to keep our eyes on the river downtown, but we will achieve more benefit by turning our attention back to policies that can achieve office/entrepreneurial growth downtown. These have a more direct impact on creating jobs, luring more retail and downtown residents. If we want to undertake capital expenditures then focusing on the urban street level is the wisest (IE Gay St. two way conversion/transit options/etc.)Totally agree. Which is what most of the rest of the Downtown 2010 Plan Ideas focus upon: http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/tags/ideas
I think giving equal attention to all of these different types of projects is important.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Pablo
Crestview Addition
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Looks like CDDC has advertised a RFQ for the study to remove the Main St. dam:
REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS The Columbus Downtown Development Corporation ("CDDC") is requesting Statements of Qualifications to provide professional services to study the feasibility of removing the Main Street Dam and restoring and redeveloping the Scioto River riverfront in downtown Columbus, Ohio. The proposed feasibility study will perform a thorough investigation of the river and the land around it. It will identify the potential environmental impacts of restoring the river to its former condition and determine the effect removal might have on the floodplain. The study will also explore potential uses of the new river corridor and the costs associated with this work.
http://www.mypublicnotices.com/dispatch/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=2248855
Posted 1 year ago # -
CalebR
Lincoln Village
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Walker wrote >>
What's wrong with calling that area Franklinton and the Brewery District?
There's practically no direct connection between those two peninsulas. What would this new name seek to accomplish?Well they do have stuff in common. The both are in redevelopment works. Both are along the Scioto River, and both have the potential to become a great assets to Downtown and the surrounding neighborhoods. When I think of Franklinton I think of Mount Carmel and everything west of it. I don't think of the Scioto Peninsula. And I think change would be good for the area. Yes the Franklinton name is historic. The first neighborhood of Columbus but, there are great things about changing the names of things. For example, the Arena District. It has a vibe to it and the name sounds good. I personally also think the Brewery District is between the High Street Corridor and Front Street, not the Whittier Peninsula. Any I think it would accomplish by showing developer that Columbus (more Franklinton) is changing and that the atmosphere and vibe of the Downtown Columbus area is changing and it could lure in investment.
Posted 12 months ago # -
marypoppinzzz
Helping The Medicine Go...
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I'm excited about this.
Posted 12 months ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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CalebR wrote >>
Walker wrote >>
What would this new name seek to accomplish?
There's practically no direct connection between those two peninsulas. What would this new name seek to accomplish?I think change would be good for the area.
Gotcha. So there's no real point to this at all. Just sounds fun to give something a new name.
CalebR wrote >> Yes the Franklinton name is historic. The first neighborhood of Columbus...
No, Franklinton was the first settlement of Central Ohio, and predates the establishment of Columbus.
Posted 12 months ago # -
CalebR
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Walker wrote >>
CalebR wrote >>
Walker wrote >>
What would this new name seek to accomplish?
There's practically no direct connection between those two peninsulas. What would this new name seek to accomplish?I think change would be good for the area.
Gotcha. So there's no real point to this at all. Just sounds fun to give something a new name.
CalebR wrote >> Yes the Franklinton name is historic. The first neighborhood of Columbus...
No, Franklinton was the first settlement of Central Ohio, and predates the establishment of Columbus.
Well, both of them are related is all I am saying. And yes a new name would be nice. Just an idea, not something I actually really really dire for.
Posted 12 months ago # -
marypoppinzzz
Helping The Medicine Go...
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Why get rankled about making up new names for peninsulas? I'm still excited for this! Super excited!
Posted 12 months ago # -
Chris Sherman
East Franklinton
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they dont call it franklinton for nothing ya know...
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