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Started 2 years ago by howatzer
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howatzer

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http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/life/stories/2009/07/13/1_DOGPATIOS.ART_ART_07-13-09_D1_GIEE9UE.html

I didn't know it was illegal! Thanks to all those scofflaw restaurants that let Buckley (my black lab)lounge on their patios!
I'd like to list them to encourage their patronage, but would that be incriminating? IF so, here are some Short North pooch-haters that DON'T allow doggies on their patios (a big middle paw claw to them!):
Union
Rosendales Bistro
Haiku
La Fugata

And to folks with misbehaved dogs, please leave them at home and don't ruin this privilege for everyone (apparently Union closed its doggy door after complaints).

Posted 2 years ago #
Bear
The woods
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As someone who did a stint as the foster parent for a series of retired racing greyhounds a while back but had never previously had dogs, I was astounded at how difficult it is to take dogs with you in the city. I'd just never noticed their absence in some places where they're completely banned (like the entirety of Easton, even the outdoor parts). I'm glad to hear that the people charged with enforcing the dogs-on-patios law have the good sense not to go out of their way to enforce it, at least.

Posted 2 years ago #
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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Yeah, it is illegal but sounds like the laws are rarely (if ever) enforced. I don't think you're really outing any places by posting their names up here. A lot of them advertise their "Pups on the Patio" type events pretty openly. ;)

Posted 2 years ago #
Trixie

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I don't see what the big deal is. I love my dog but I'm not taking her to lunch with me. Dogs are great but they are NOT human. Leave your dog at home. Why do people insist on imposing their own beliefs on everyone else? Do you realize that people are afraid of dogs? Do you even care? If I were afraid of dogs, I would be pissed that I had to eat lunch staring at a pit bull. Come on people, have some common sense.

Posted 2 years ago #
howatzer

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Trixie, I would argue that my lab laying quietly at my feat is less of a nuisance than most children. Besides, according to your argument, dogs shouldn't be allowed anywhere - on the street, in the park, etc.- for risk of setting off someones phobia?
I agree that some dogs should not be allowed out, and that many owners are irresponsible, but I don't think that means every dog should be banned.
Anyway, why not let business owners decide what's good for their business? THis is not the same as the smoking ban, since smoking necessarily endangers the health of others.

Posted 2 years ago #
Trixie

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Believe you me brother, I would rather allow dogs in restaurants than children. I just think that it's silly to bring your dog around places where people are eating. Sorry.

Posted 2 years ago #
howatzer

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Walker wrote >>
Yeah, it is illegal but sounds like the laws are rarely (if ever) enforced. I don't think you're really outing any places by posting their names up here. A lot of them advertise their "Pups on the Patio" type events pretty openly. ;)

Yeah, but that's their choice. I'd hate to be the one that got one shut down.

Posted 2 years ago #
Rockmastermike
CORNspiracy HQ
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Oh that pesky health code.

I don't think restaurants that don't let dogs in are "dog haters", they probably just enjoy not violating the law and risking having their business shut down over something that is randomly enforced. It just takes one health dept inspector having a bad day to really screw you over.

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howatzer

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Rockmastermike wrote >>
Oh that pesky health code.
I don't think restaurants that don't let dogs in are "dog haters", they probably just enjoy not violating the law and risking having their business shut down over something that is randomly enforced. It just takes one health dept inspector having a bad day to really screw you over.

Yes, you're right - "dog haters" was unjustified and I realize it's not their fault. As I said, a couple bad dog (owners) ruins it for the rest of us. I posted the list more to save dog companions some time in finding a place to go, not to punish them.

Posted 2 years ago #
surber17

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Rosendales Bistro is a super nice restaurant. The last thing I want to be sitting by there is a dog (and I love dogs) .... well second last thing, children is def. number 1.

Posted 2 years ago #
howatzer

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surber17 wrote >>
Rosendales Bistro is a super nice restaurant. The last thing I want to be sitting by there is a dog (and I love dogs) .... well second last thing, children is def. number 1.

But what if my dog put on a coat and tie?

Posted 2 years ago #
turnedNOTburned
Grandview/Columbus, Ohio
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We might not want to speak to loudly of unenforced laws, it could be another revenue potential for government. (Not that I'm bitter or anything :)

I actively look for businesses that are pet friendly, they seem generally friendlier, more relaxed, the owners are "pet people" and I dig the "environment" they perpetuate. My favorite coffee shop in Grandview Heights is pet friendly, Luckily.

A productive area of discussion might be WHY do we take our pets with us everywhere? Since I can't asexually reproduce (hold your applause please, heh), my pets are my kids and I express my desire to nuture and grow things through them. Outings keep them socialized and generally provide me and others with enjoyment and companionship.

People are free to avoid pet friendly businesses, just as businesses are free to choose to be pet friendly. I'd totally support stronger leash enforcement and pet laws in exchange for culture more open to inclusion of well trained pets.

Posted 2 years ago #
blammo
in the shadow of the wonder of bread
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I have come to realize that even if 5 people come up to pet my dog while I'm hanging at a patio, there could just as easily be 10 more people that wish he/we would just go away. Allergies, general fear of dogs, floating dog hairs, a bored dog sniffing aroundÃ¢â‚¬Â¦there's a lot of reasons people don't like to see dogs around where food is served.

Believe me, I'm all for more dog-friendly options out there. I don't want to ruin anyone else's experience through my own indulgences though. Maybe it's different with smaller or older dogs, but I have more fun dining & drinking when I'm not focusing on my dog the whole time. Your mileage may vary though. If you found a place where you & your dog are welcome, more power to you! It's just not for me at this time.

Posted 2 years ago #
howatzer

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"People are free to avoid pet friendly businesses, just as businesses are free to choose to be pet friendly. I'd totally support stronger leash enforcement and pet laws in exchange for culture more open to inclusion of well trained pets. "

Hallelujah!

Posted 2 years ago #
howatzer

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blammo wrote >>
If you found a place where you & your dog are welcome, more power to you! It's just not for me at this time.

Freedom and personal responsibility only work when applied together.

Posted 2 years ago #
greenhouse1014
Columbus
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Yeah, last time I was out eating at a place that allowed dogs on teh patio, I look over mid-forkbite only to be given the added pleaseure of watching someone's dog lick themselves. Sorry, dogs where I eat is not a good match to me. I like dogs, but please keep your ball licking dogs away from the eating place...

Posted 2 years ago #
howatzer

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we should ban nose-pickers and cell-phone-gabbers as well!

Posted 2 years ago #
Coreroc
Egoville USA
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I say keep your dogs at home along with their hair, barking, and fleas while I am trying to eat. I love dogs but seriously it is a nusance to have people tripping over your puppy and leashes dragging around when people choose not to hold on in close confines. I shouldn't have to smell cigarette smoke or eat dog hair at a nice place.

I saw a dog take off from the owner at the north market the other day and it knocked down a few folks and jumped at food several times before the owner even took note her dog large had left. As close to kids as some peoples dogs can be they are still ANIMALS and by no means are completely under control.

Now I love dogs and think there are places they can be in public with no issue just not in a place the serves food or drinks.

Posted 2 years ago #
blammo
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howatzer wrote >>
we should ban nose-pickers and cell-phone-gabbers as well!

Freedom and personal responsibility only work when applied together.

Posted 2 years ago #
Nitsud Regnifloh
Valerio Heights
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while we're at it, dont take dogs to Comfest either. i freak out at the amount of people there, imagine what a dog thinks!

and i LOVE my dogs, but feel no need to take them with us to eat. BUUUT, we did sit outside on the "patio" of Z-Pizza a couple weeks ago with the Shih Tzu. i, however, dont see a problem with that bc there were only 2 tables, and we were the only ones out there.

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