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Issue 3 - Casino News & Updates
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ChrisSunami
King-Lincoln District
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Posted 2 years ago # -
Jimbo Jones
German Village
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I sure as hell voted "YES" for Issue 3. I have no intention of going to one of these casinos, but I'm not opposed to anyone else doing so. And, if it raises any money for Ohio and these cities, then I'm all for it.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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jpizzow wrote >>
Btw, rode by the other day and saw them gutting some more buildings. Whether it's a casino or not, something is going down.Plaza Properties (who own the site) won a $750K federal cleanup grant.
Their original plans were for a new 1000+ unit residential development on site.
I'm voting YES for Downtown Residential Development and NO for Second-Rate Casino.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Blurred
Short North
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To me economic downturns and recessions are extremely critical times in this country where we have to be very aware and conscience of the things we're voting for. It's very easy to have knee-jerk reactions to bills just because they claim to raise a few bucks and create some jobs. We have to be intelligent about what we vote for though. Don't vote for things like issue 3 just because it might presently have a marginally beneficial aspect. In the long wrong it is simply wrong. I am not against casinos in Ohio, but this is just wrong. For all the reasons Walker has listed in the above posts I voted NO on issue 3.
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Jimbo Jones
German Village
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I wish those you voting against Issue 3 would have taken the same approach when it came time to vote on the City income tax hike back in August.
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Hael
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I voted No to a Nanny State.
Take many of the 'social impact' reasons people are using to justify their "No" vote here and apply those reasons to the legality of Alcohol. (apples and oranges, strawman, yeah yeah, blah blah blah). Well, lets bring back Prohibition, shall we?
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dru
IV
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Hael wrote >>
I voted No to a Nanny State.
Take many of the 'social impact' reasons people are using to justify their "No" vote here and apply those reasons to the legality of Alcohol. (apples and oranges, strawman, yeah yeah, blah blah blah). Well, lets bring back Prohibition, shall we?the issue isn't with gambling alone, I think most the No voters like myself have stated that we've gambled elsewhere and are not entirely adverse to having it in the state. the larger issue is with how the proposal is written.
your yes vote means you just voted to approve a government mandated monopoly of one sector of the Ohio economy. it's not like Prohibition, and more like voting to mandate that we all buy Busch Light from one bar down in the Arena District.
Posted 2 years ago # -
JonMyers
Ao Nang, Krabi, Thailand
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Hael - My reasons for a no vote aren't really based on the social impact. I'm a gambler and I like gambling. The monopoly that issue 3 creates makes no sense.
We would be giving away the gambling licenses at $50 million a piece. There is every indication and precedent out there, which indicates these licenses would fetch $250 million a piece on the free market.
Why in the hell would we potentially give away $500 million dollars? I can think of only two reasons. Either the people running the state are complete morons or they have engineered a way to have their hands in the cookie jar.
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gk
columbus, ohio
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dru wrote >>
Hael wrote >>
your yes vote means you just voted to approve a government mandated monopoly of one sector of the Ohio economy. it's not like Prohibition, and more like voting to mandate that we all buy Busch Light from one bar down in the Arena District.
Nothing is fixed in stone. As we are seeing first hand, the Ohio Constitution can always be amended by the people of Ohio at any time.
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dru
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gk wrote >>
dru wrote >>
Hael wrote >>
your yes vote means you just voted to approve a government mandated monopoly of one sector of the Ohio economy. it's not like Prohibition, and more like voting to mandate that we all buy Busch Light from one bar down in the Arena District.Nothing is fixed in stone. As we are seeing first hand, the Ohio Constitution can always be amended by the people of Ohio at any time.
But why create the need for a 2nd Constitutional Amendment - to repeal this one, followed by a 3rd - to draft new rules and regs governing casino gambling? It's a completely asinine way to do this versus "...approv[ing] a succinct amendment granting the governor and General Assembly the authority to draft statutes, rules and regulations for such enterprises. In this way, the state would retain leverage to properly license, govern and tax casinos." [Dispatch editorial] In the meantime if Issue 3 passes, you have a government mandated monopoly running the show.
As for "vibrant and colorful", is that actually how you would describe downtown Wheeling, Evansville or Gary? This leads to my other reason to vote No - the pollyannish views that casinos stimulate the local economy and create vibrancy around them. I'd like it to be true, but have seldom seen an instance where it actually is. And the lame attempt to pawn off Hollywood Casino on Columbus doesn't lead me to believe this will be an exception.
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