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All this debate could have been avoided by not having a filthy trashy ass casino in the first place, what will Columbus voters vie for next, crack dens and brothels?
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Did Columbus blow it on the Casino relocation?
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Neil Jaye
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This is slightly off-topic for this thread but does anyone know if the Ohio casino laws allow for only one casino per city? Is there a possibility of competition being able to come to Columbus, Cincy, etc in the form of multiple casino companies in operation?
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dru
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Neil Jaye wrote >>
This is slightly off-topic for this thread but does anyone know if the Ohio casino laws allow for only one casino per city? Is there a possibility of competition being able to come to Columbus, Cincy, etc in the form of multiple casino companies in operation?it is a Constitutionally enshrined monopoly.
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Core_Models
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it is a Constitutionally enshrined monopoly.
...and yet Harrah's was just awarded management and partial ownership in two of them, months after the amendment was passed.
That's a strange monopoly.
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dru
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Core_Models wrote >>
it is a Constitutionally enshrined monopoly.
...and yet Harrah's was just awarded management and partial ownership in two of them, months after the amendment was passed.
That's a strange monopoly.@core - you know they've simply been invited to join the management group of singular monopolies in Cleveland and Cinci. Per the Ohio Constitution, Harrah's or any other operator couldn't build a second casino in those cities or another Ohio location.
and that was the thrust of @njaye's inquiry, but you chose to ignore it to keep on plugging the i'm always right about the casino line.
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Schoolboy
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Neil Jaye wrote >>
This is slightly off-topic for this thread but does anyone know if the Ohio casino laws allow for only one casino per city? Is there a possibility of competition being able to come to Columbus, Cincy, etc in the form of multiple casino companies in operation?i'm sure that if one of the cities in ohio do better than any other, that harrah will challenge the monopoly law, and definitely win. thus allowing them to build an additional casino. as is, i'm guessing that won't happen because the demand is just not going to be there. cleveland probably has the best shot, but even that's a long shot.
i'm hoping that scioto downs makes more of a case for themselves in the future here in columbus. creating a larger more unique casino outside of the outter belt and putting the one on the westside out of business.
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dru
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Schoolboy wrote >>
Neil Jaye wrote >>
This is slightly off-topic for this thread but does anyone know if the Ohio casino laws allow for only one casino per city? Is there a possibility of competition being able to come to Columbus, Cincy, etc in the form of multiple casino companies in operation?i'm sure that if one of the cities in ohio do better than any other, that harrah will challenge the monopoly law, and definitely win. thus allowing them to build an additional casino. as is, i'm guessing that won't happen because the demand is just not going to be there. cleveland probably has the best shot, but even that's a long shot.
i'm hoping that scioto downs makes more of a case for themselves in the future here in columbus. creating a larger more unique casino outside of the outter belt and putting the one on the westside out of business.this would all require another vote. which potentially could win.
but nevertheless if it was for one additional casino in Cleveland as you mention, it would require a consitutional amendment. To pass it would require the voters of Cinci, Columbus, and Toledo (+ rest of the state) to agree that Cleveland gets a second one. Likewise, outside of the potential for slots, a full casino at Scioto Downs would need to go before a state vote as well (with Gilbert, Harrah's, etc... most likely funding the 'No' vote campaign).
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somertimeoh
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Hence the reason why I, and many others, were against this whole thing from the beginning. I had zero issue with the legalization of gambling, but don't make so many specifics that it takes an act of God almost to tweak the process along the way. Dumb!
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gk
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MFRONE wrote >>
JonMyers wrote >>
I'm guessing that Clevelander Michael Ruhlman's attitude towards Columbus isn't an isolated case.One thing to keep in mind is the Cleveland casino is being put in the Flats area which right now is home to a few crappy bars and some strip clubs. The casino is being used to completely redevelop and restore that whole area so a high end casino was needed, as a crappy Hollywood style place wouldn't cut it. The Arena District is already well established so there was probably no reason to go all out.
Notice that the idea of a hotel wasn't planned for the AD, but now on the west side it is being considered.Cleveland's casino is not being built in the flats area. It is being built on Huron - around the terminal tower and nowhere near the flats. You must be confusing your developments in downtown Cleveland.
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Core_Models
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dru wrote >>
Core_Models wrote >>
it is a Constitutionally enshrined monopoly.
...and yet Harrah's was just awarded management and partial ownership in two of them, months after the amendment was passed.
That's a strange monopoly.@core - you know they've simply been invited to join the management group of singular monopolies in Cleveland and Cinci. Per the Ohio Constitution, Harrah's or any other operator couldn't build a second casino in those cities or another Ohio location.
and that was the thrust of @njaye's inquiry, but you chose to ignore it to keep on plugging the i'm always right about the casino line.Again, I have no issue with the point, I have an issue with the description of this as a monopoly.
1. No group or party was granted exclusive control of anything, as clearly demonstrated by the fact that an additional group (Harrah's) now has ownership and management control of some of these casinos, long after the amendment was passed.
2. The only solution to the poorly defined monopoly would be more casinos...and I really don't believe anyone complaining about this is really suggesting that.
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Core_Models
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MFRONE
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Can people who aren't in the know about the NHL stop talking about the Blue Jackets just up and leaving? There are quite a few franchises that are worse off then the Blue Jackets and they are going nowhere. Hell, the Phoenix Coyotes went bankrupt and they aren't going anywhere.
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Core_Models
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MFRONE wrote >>
Can people who aren't in the know about the NHL stop talking about the Blue Jackets just up and leaving?Yes, someone tell their president to shut up already...
"The current ownership group is not in a position to continue to deal with the arena's structural (financial) problem," said Mike Priest, president of the Blue Jackets.
"Time is of the essence," he said. "This process was started a long time ago."
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