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Crew 2009 Season Discussion

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  • Started 11 months ago by pjguldan
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  1. Rocknrolloutlaws

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    I agree that the throwing stuff gets out of hand. But ultimately, they can't have it both ways. If they want to completely sanitize the experience, they're going to lose people. And at the games I've been to recently, the Nordecke is by far the most crowded part of the stadium. And that's even with this season's lackluster start.

    I talked to a couple of different people today about this, people who have bought different ticket packages for the season. Their comments were that the Nordecke adds to the atmosphere and without it, they wouldn't enjoy the games nearly as much and are less likely to buy tickets, any tickets, next year.

    So yeah, I agree that cutting down on the throwing of beer (besides, what a waste of beer) and other projectiles is a good thing. But at the same time, it seems like they're going a bit too far and are going to alienate a lot of dedicated supporters this way.

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  2. pjguldan

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    Rocknrolloutlaws wrote >>
    I agree that the throwing stuff gets out of hand. But ultimately, they can't have it both ways. If they want to completely sanitize the experience, they're going to lose people. And at the games I've been to recently, the Nordecke is by far the most crowded part of the stadium. And that's even with this season's lackluster start.
    I talked to a couple of different people today about this, people who have bought different ticket packages for the season. Their comments were that the Nordecke adds to the atmosphere and without it, they wouldn't enjoy the games nearly as much and are less likely to buy tickets, any tickets, next year.
    So yeah, I agree that cutting down on the throwing of beer (besides, what a waste of beer) and other projectiles is a good thing. But at the same time, it seems like they're going a bit too far and are going to alienate a lot of dedicated supporters this way.

    After reading and thinking about it, it seems a lot of supporters agree with McCullers, but it's some of the newcomers that are having a harder time adjusting. It should be now clear that McCullers is ready to take a heavy hand to the corner if needed.

    I hope it doesn't come to that because I fear it will destroy the section as we know it.

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  3. berdawn

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    Nice post! The folks next to me at the last home game were shouting "thank-you-La-Mar" rather than GTFO.

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  4. michaelcoyote

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    I have to wonder how big the Yob problem will be once OSU is totally done for the year and the students go home...

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  5. Rocknrolloutlaws

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    I was pleased to read the follow up from McCullers. The first statement on the issue seemed to me to fail to fully appreciate the role that a strong supporters section plays. I thought it came off instead as a bit of corporatespeak, in which he took to task the dedicated fans because they made your casual visitor who isn't familiar with soccer culture uncomfortable.

    But, it appears that I under estimated him and management at least to a certain extent. I hope he is being honest about the overall concern being with the image of the club. If, after that post, they express a desire to work with the supporters group to change some of the things which they have problems with, then even better. The comment someone elsewhere made of giving getting space in Free Kick to list chants is a good one, and I think would be a positive step on the part of management to show that they're serious about working to make things better, rather than just trying to stop what exists. Because I think a lot of the "bad element" that people say have invaded the Nordecke this year have simply picked up on what others were already doing. If people can still participate without having to resort to the lowest common denominator of chants, that is if they know what the words are/whats going on, I think they will.

    That being said, if they completely sanitize the experience that isn't a positive thing either. Part of a supporter's culture is an element of edginess. I agree, it's a tough balance to strike, and that this season has gone a bit too far the wrong way. But, I think a G-rated supporters section loses a bit of its essential essence.

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  6. pjguldan

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    No game reports today, I am on vacation, but I was happy to see the 2-0 result last night. A great win for the Crew and we are back in playoff position. We haven't lost in 8 games. Go Crew!.

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  7. Rocknrolloutlaws

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    Gruenebaum had some amazing saves last night. Things looked kinda dicey towards the end (as usual) but he managed to save the shutout. Still though, even with the win, the team hasn't been able to overcome the demons that beset them in the second half.

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  8. pjguldan

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    The team is back in action today at 3pm. Should be a good matchup as the Crew are looking better as of late and Chivas USA has the best record in MLS. Both teams are missing players. Our defense is threadbare and Kevin Burns looks to get his first MLS start today in central midfield. It will be a tough game, Chivas is the dirtiest team in the league. As many problems as the Crew have with Chivas, I think the Crew can take Chivas. 2-1 Crew.

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  9. pjguldan

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    Live tweeting today from press row: twitter.com/anamericangame

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  10. Walker

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    Nice! :D

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  11. chaptal

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    Some truly awful officiating in the penalty area today.

    Schelotto made us forget about that as he scored two more today as the Crew come from behind and win 2-1.

    The guy's a legend.

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  12. Rocknrolloutlaws

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    Truly awful officiating indeed.

    Schelotto is absolutely amazing...it didn't even matter that it seemed as if the ref was blind and would let anything slide. Scholotto just took that as a sign to play even harder and win inspite of that fact.

    I definitely think that it's good when the crew attacks the north end in the second half. They seem to play with a bit more intensity and drive.

    The whole no swearing in the Nordecke experiment seemed to last through the first half and then into part of the second. I couldn't hear what was said to the corner before the start of the game...they didn't have a PA loud enough to get past the first four or five rows it seemed.

    It was kinda funny though, at the start of the game everyone was sort of good natured about trying to keep things a little more tame. There was a bit of a subdued atmosphere in the corner, and people were joking but in a good natured way about being a little more "well behaved." I think that there was a genuine sentiment that maybe it was something worth trying. But as the game progressed and the ref kept making, or missing, obvious calls...well, the new "rules" went out the window.

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  13. pjguldan

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    Chivas USA 1 – Crew 2 (Game 13 - June 14th)

    The Crew have warmed up at the right time. Columbus recorded another win, led by another outstanding two goal performance by Guillermo Barros Schelotto. The Crew played one of their best games this year, especially in the second half. The result leaves the Crew in 3rd place but are one of the hottest teams in the league. They have not lost in 9 games, going 4-0-5.

    The game took a little bit to round into form. Both teams struggled holding on to possession early on. Chivas started the game a little stronger, but their early attacks soon petered out. The Crew then started to find the open lanes and connect a few passes. The first real chance came off of a nice Gaven pass to Schelotto. His shot however was easily saved. Rogers would soon have a breakout chance, but he caught the ball under his feet when he crossed over towards the right. The Chivas defense was able to recover and clear the chance.

    The Crew would have better luck setting up Chivas for their first goal. Padula’s header towards the Columbus end fell into a scrum between Bunner and Chivas forward Eduardo Lillingston. Lillingston out muscled Brunner and bore down on Gruenebaum. He rounded the stranded keeper to score the goal for Chivas USA in the 39th minute. Columbus had not pressed That would be the way the first half ended, with the Crew down 1-0.

    The second half would open with the Crew looking to erase the deficit. Ekpo had a couple of good chances to even up the game, but again the Chivas defense held up. It would be a long goal kick and some Schelotto magic that would ultimately lead to the Crew goal. Andy Gruenebaum’s goal kick in the 61th minute would bounce past Moreno. Schelotto shielded his marker and found the bouncing ball and was free in on goal. He did not waste this effort as he calmly put it past Thornton to tie the game at 1-1.

    Columbus would continue to pressure Chivas USA. The Crew launched wave after wave of attack. Jed Zayner would snake his way past a couple Chivas defenders making a dribbling run that would have impressed Frankie Hejduk and fired off a cross that was just inches high of Rogers head. Then Noonan had found open space and tried to fire in a cross, but was blocked by a Chivas player’s arm drawing protests for a penalty. Soon after, Ekpo broke free and was collared at the top of the box, the referee played advantage, but the crowd wanted a penalty call. Gaven’s resulting shot was wide. While the previous calls were probably correct, the last one was a bit of a head scratcher. Rogers was attempting to get on the end of another dangerous cross in the box. He got tripped up by a Chivas player and went down.

    In the end the Crew did not receive any penalty calls, but the non-calls did end up benefitting the Crew. Postgame, Warzycha refused to comment on the officiating but he did say that it did have the effect of firing up the team. Rather than waiting to get a penalty call, the Crew crafted the game winner just minutes from full time. The chance started with a simple Padula interception in the center circle. He found Guille who redirected it to Rogers up the left side. Gaven ran on to the next pass, headed to the corner. Padula trailed the play and got the pass back from Gaven. His resulting cross was high of intended target Steven Lenhart, but Schelotto was in the right place to settle the ball and finish the play with a goal to put the Crew up 2-1.

    The 2008 Crew did not have to deal with too many injuries like the year’s team. That has made the current streak even more impressive. Backups like keeper Andy Gruenebaum, defenders Jed Zayner and Eric Brunner have had to step up and fill in. Eddie Gaven has played almost everywhere in the midfield and has done well in the absence of Adam Moffat. Danny O’Rourke has played all along the defensive line and at defensive midfield. This is a team that has been limping along trying to hold on, but now they have some game tested depth and are moving up the standings. It will be a busy summer for the Crew. It is nice to know that there are plenty of players on this team that can play when needed. That only breeds more confidence on a team that should be pretty confident already.

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  14. pjguldan

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    Looks like Noonan has been traded to Colorado. That is a bit of a surprise since he is Schelotto's backup. I really think that Warzycha will shift the formation rather than just replace Schelotto. Lenhart and Garey can fill in at the second striker position for much less money. More at my own site.

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  15. michaelcoyote

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    pjguldan wrote >>
    Looks like Noonan has been traded to Colorado. That is a bit of a surprise since he is Schelotto's backup. I really think that Warzycha will shift the formation rather than just replace Schelotto. Lenhart and Garey can fill in at the second striker position for much less money. More at my own site.

    Sad to see him go, but it makes sense, especially based on your analysis.

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    Crew 1 – FC Dallas 2 (Game 14 – June 20th)

    The Crew’s 9 game undefeated streak came to an end in the heat of Dallas last night with the Crew losing for the first time since April 5th 2-1 against FC Dallas. It was another frustrating game as the Crew once again gave up a lead in the last 10 minutes as Dallas came back with two goals to take the win. The result left the Crew with three losses on the season, still looking for their first road win, and tied for third place in the Eastern Conference.

    The Crew went ahead early in the first half. Columbus sporadically applied pressure to Dallas leading to a corner kick in the 17th minute. Schelotto’s corner kick found an unmarked Eric Brunner. His header looked to be heading towards the far post until Pablo Ricchetti redirected it into his own net and gave the Crew an undeserved 1-0 lead.

    The rest of the first half would continue to be a back and forth affair as both teams struggled to maintain an offensive flow. Dallas continued to press the Crew, but they were reduced to long range shots, including a Kenny Cooper shot that Gruenebaum would parry away and off the post. Columbus had the best chance to score another goal in the first half when Marshall broke free on another Schelotto corner. His fierce shot was too close to the keeper and it was pushed away.

    The second half continued the trend of disjointed attacking play by both sides. The Crew were unable to get any offensive flow going as Dallas started to connect more passes as the half progressed. Dallas coach Schellas Hyndman proceeded to insert fresh attacking players into the game, using all of his subs by the 76th minute. As Dallas started to surge, the Crew looked tired. This is the dangerous combination that led to two second half goals and another blown lead.

    The first goal, Eric Avila sparks a Dallas break and then ends up on the edge of the box with the ball. With a tired Danny O’Rourke backpeddling, Avila, who just came into the game, fired a bending 25 yard shot past Gruenebaum to tie the game at 1-1 in the 80th minute. The second goal was also sparked by the brilliance of Avila. His pass to David Ferreira sliced open the Crew defense. Ferreira pressed ahead of Marshall who stuck to him, however when Marshall placed his hands on the back of Ferreira, he went down and drew the penalty. Soft or not, it was an easy call for the ref. Cooper converted the spot kick in the 85th minute to make it 2-1 Dallas.

    It’s easy to play what if, but the Crew’s substitution pattern was confusing. I could see that several players were extremely fatigued throughout the second half and were giving Dallas space and time. It is true that there is a big difference in talent between Ekpo and Grendi, but that gap narrows considerably when Ekpo is moving at half speed.

    This was a game that I envisioned the Crew giving up the tying goal as the team was looking slow and giving up possession. After the first goal it really looked like Dallas would take the win. There was no response from either the coach or the players in the second half, blame the heat, but this was as poor a performance as I had seen all year. The Crew miss a chance to make up ground in the playoff hunt and lose a winnable game (again). The team has a perfect chance to get back on the winning track as a New York team that has not won on the road in 20 games comes to town next week.

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  17. pjguldan

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    Marshall and Rogers added to the Gold Cup roster. Looks like the Crew will have to put that depth to good use. Brunner can fill in for Marshall, but we are thin at wing. I guess I see Alex Grendi getting some playing time out of this.

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    New York 0 – Crew 1 (Game 15 – June 27th)

    In what was billed as a “Night of Champions”, the Crew faced off against a woeful New York Red Bull side that has been even worse on the road, not having won since the road to MLS Cup last year. The team got their championship rings from last year and Columbus resident, and former heavyweight champ Buster Douglas were on hand to watch the proceedings. Neither team put in a top performance you expect from a champion. However, as the Crew proved over the last year, sometimes getting three points is what makes a champion.

    The first half was the type of game you expect from two teams heading in different directions. Columbus pressured New York, controlled possession, and looked like the much better team. Surprise starter Steven Lenhart did his best Alejandro Moreno impression, leading the strike force. Robbie Rogers got behind the defense often and Schelotto drifted into dangerous positions. Despite the offensive flow, the Crew were unable to get a clear chance at the Red Bull goal.

    The Crew’s best chances would come off their set piece dominance. Schelotto had three targets to pick from; Lenhart, Eric Brunner, and Chad Marshall are all tall, physical players. The first chance would come nearly 40 minutes into the game off of a Schelotto corner kick. Lenhart’s soft header landed right in the hands of Red Bull goalie Danny Cepero.

    The Crew pressure lead to another flurry of set pieces just before halftime. Schelotto again lofted up a good ball that Lenhart connected with and unleashed a ferocious header that was cleared over the ball by Red Bull defender Alfredo Pacheco. The second corner would find Chad Marshall. Cepero, screened by Gaven, was unable to save the shot and the Crew were up 1-0 on a goal in 1st half stoppage time.

    Down in yet another road game, New York started the second half with more energy than they showed the entire first half. Stringing together a few passes, the Red Bulls were finally able to get a off a dangerous shot midway through the second half. Jorge Rojas fired off a long-range shot that deflected off of Eric Brunner and off the crossbar. Hesmer had a good look at the shot and would have probably easily stopped the shot. It only confirmed that New York would only be able to get back into the game with the Crew’s help.

    As the second half slipped away, it was more and more clear the help the Red Bulls needed was not coming. The Crew looked tight on offense; Rogers and Gaven had good chances to put the game away, but were unable to. The defense, with the recently returned Frankie Hejduk was rock solid. New York’s hopeful long ball attempts were headed away by the towering due of Brunner and Marshall. The defensively minded midfield duo of Brian Carroll and Danny O’Rourke kept the Red Bulls from getting any clear shots at goal.

    It was not the offensive display the Crew have had to rely on to get wins this year, but it was an good sign from a team still trying to find it’s self this year. The Crew stands at the midpoint of the regular season in 2nd place in the Easter Conference. After a woeful start and a few hiccups along the way, this is a team that is looking more and more like champions. They may not be there yet, but they are starting to find that killer instinct again. Warzycha is growing into his roll as the guy in charge. The ever-shifting back line is starting to find some solid form and some depth as well. The offense still revolves around Schelotto, but the roles of the supporting cast are coming into sharper focus.

    With three out of four games at home next month, including next week against East leading D.C., this is a critical time for the Crew. A string of good results could catapult them to a strong lead in the conference and within striking distance of the Supporters Shield. Shaking off the Cup hangover took longer than anyone anticipated, but this is a team that is primed for a strong second half of the season.

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  19. pjguldan

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    D.C. United 1 – Columbus Crew 1 (Game 16 – July 4th)

    With a 16 game home unbeaten streak on the line, the Columbus Crew backed into a tie last Saturday night against the visiting D.C. United. Playing without winger Robbie Rogers and stalwart defender Chad Marshall, the Crew came out flat. The Crew were outshot 22-9 and D.C. kept the majority of the ball throughout the game, it was only United’s lack of finishing and the Crew’s opportunism in front of goal that kept this from being Columbus’ first loss at home since June 2008.

    Both teams probed for an advantage in the opening minutes. The Crew had some of it’s best chances of the game from several Schelotto set pieces. This is one of the many places where Marshall’s absent was felt on the night as the Crew were not very dangerous with the corners and free kicks. United countered with a couple of chances, but the soccer was not a display of two teams battling it out for first place.

    At the half hour mark, fans hoping for 4th of July fireworks were treated to offensive display; unfortunately it came from the team in black. The United tried breaking the match open; getting several excellent looks at goal. Hesmer stopped the first point blank shot. The United bounced the ball around the penalty area. Danny O’Rourke was unable to clear the ball and Christian Gomez pounced on the loose ball to make it 1-0 United in the 32nd minute. D.C.’s kept the pressure up until halftime, but were unable to breakthrough again.

    The Crew looked absent on offense even thought, Coach Warzycha made an offensive sub at halftime, bringing in forward Steven Lenhart for the woeful defender Andy Iro. The change did very little to stop the United’s stranglehold on the game. The Crew had very few good chances in front of goal, but they took them well. Against the run of play, Emmanuel Ekpo took a pass on the left side and lofted a cross. Lenhart nodded the ball down to an open Alejandro Moreno. Moreno took his shot low and put it past keeper Josh Wicks. Despite looking the far worse side, the Crew had tied the game at 1-1 in the 58th minute.

    The slight hope that the Crew would steal the win was soon crushed. D.C. United bore down on the Crew goal for the majority of the second half; creating chance after chance to get the win they deserved. Despite the large edge in shots and possession, the United were never able to break through and get the winning goal as the game ended 1-1.

    Columbus looked shocking slow and unmotivated with first place on the line. A D.C. United team missing four players, including their two starting forwards ran Columbus ragged. The Crew midfield gave up space and possession to D.C. and Christian Gomez used it to create chance after chance for the visitors. The Crew clearly missed Marshall and Rogers. The vaunted team depth was laid bare as Columbus could not handle the energy that D.C. brought to the game.

    As poorly as the Crew played it’s hard to find a silver lining. They still salvaged a point and they have another chance to vault back up the standings as they take on the Chicago Fire next week at Toyota Park. The Crew will need to play a much more disciplined game against Fire. While a trip to Chicago is only one game in a long season, the Crew need to start showing they have the mettle to make the playoffs and make some noise once there, because this is a team with some flaws starting to show.

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  20. michaelcoyote

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    Just think, if we hadn't traded Kei Kamara for starting fights and generally being batshit insane, we could have had one of the most memorable goal celebrations I've ever seen:

    http://www.mlsnet.com/quickkicks/index.jsp?page=index&c=QuickKicks&p=501547&s=5020891&i=540699

    Edit: Looks like embedding isn't working.. it's still worth clicking through and watching...

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