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YouTubeThis is like a continuation of the Fox Nightmare, Glen Beck, and his Fox paid for rallies and tea parties advocating overthrow of the government. Do not get me wrong, everyone on here knows that I have serious Republican tendencies and might even be considered "conservative" in the original context, but even I cannot take these self-proclaimed conservative wing-nuts that seem to have high-jacked the Grand Old Party. I have to agree with you kids on here and like Winston Churchchill did in parliament way back when, leave my Republican seat and take a seat with my Liberal friends across the aisle. This new "conservatism" is nothing more than the "military industrial complex" taking our government over and our basic liberties away from us, just like Ike warned us back in the 1950's. Instead of these "conservatives" railing with the word "socialist" toward others, perhaps they need to look in the mirror at themselves and proclaim "fascist".
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Aunt Madge
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misskitty
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There is always going to be disagreement about how our country is run, How our state is run, and how our own personal lives should be run. Some people in the world are very far to the left or right.
However, there will always be people that are right down the middle of both sides. As well as people who may be Conservative or liberal that are able to see both sides. Not that they always agree but in fact can see it. I know that some people that are so far to one side can be scary and downright depressing at times. I like to think that there are enough people in the world that are right down the middle and respectful of another’s opinion that even if they don’t agree can value someone for their own opinions and ideas as a person. I think the person who can respect others opinions as their own and remember to live their life with respect can balance that people in the world that do not.
Yea people watch Glenn Beck. Some even agree with him they seem to not have much significance when it comes to being heard by the whole population. They are more heard with people of their own types. This is the same for people to the far left. It’s up to the individual to put faith in what they believe is right. People that follow other people I don’t think will ever cause a catastrophic change because they are not leaders they are followers and the leaders will never gain respect enough to get it from others because they respect no one them self’s .Thats just how I feel crazy as it may seem.
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KenOC
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Um... if I remember correctly, Bush's approval rating was in the gutter (~30%) for most of his second term. Wouldn't this indicate that a large number of conservatives and/or republicans were unhappy with him as well?Well said.
Answering: "Yes, I am unhappy" on a poll is a whole different ball of wax than organizing a few hundred thousand to gather to proclaim outrage. The question is, where was the outrage and distopian rhetoric when the same fiscal policies were exercised under republican control.
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Um... if I remember correctly, Bush's approval rating was in the gutter (~30%) for most of his second term. Wouldn't this indicate that a large number of conservatives and/or republicans were unhappy with him as well?Well said.
Answering: "Yes, I am unhappy" on a poll is a whole different ball of wax than organizing a few hundred thousand to gather to proclaim outrage. The question is, where was the outrage and distopian rhetoric when the same fiscal policies were exercised under republican control.
Only speaking for myself, the first time I heard the term socialist applied to a sitting politician it was in reference to GWB and his bail-outs. That alone cost the GOP considerable support at least among my circle. Note that did not translate to supporting the Dems. More like a repudiation of the neocon ( and neolib ) agendas.
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KenOC
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P.S. I am with missKitty in the fact that 99% of political arguments are regurgitations of predigested op-ed pieces. Far left and right leaning demagogues are unwilling to consider alternative perspectives that clash with those of the team they have decided to support. A little introspective mission to seek out one's own hypocracy does well to make one a more rounded, less zealotous, and a far more approachable person with which to have genuine political discourse. -not directed to anyone other than the dope posting inflammatory pictures and videos.
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KenOC
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wrote Note that did not translate to supporting the Dems. More like a repudiation of the neocon ( and neolib ) agendas.Which leads me to believe that you and most people on CU (from what I've so far observed) are capable of being able to see both sides of the argument. It is exhausting to ask where was your exultation/outrage when the other team was in power.
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wrote Note that did not translate to supporting the Dems. More like a repudiation of the neocon ( and neolib ) agendas.Which leads me to believe that you and most people on CU (from what I've so far observed) are capable of being able to see both sides of the argument. It is exhausting to ask where was your exultation/outrage when the other team was in power.
So stop asking.
Seriously, I and others did not support GWB bailouts and we do not support Obama bailouts. We disliked deficits under GWB and dislike deficits under Obama. What's hard to understand about this?
It's got exactly dick to do with "teams" and everything to do with policy.
Similarly though, where's the leftist outrage over Obama continuing GWB policies of preventative detention, extraordinary rendition and secret wiretaps? Bad under Bush but ok when a Democrat does it? Where's your outrage now?
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Similarly though, where's the leftist outrage over Obama continuing GWB policies of preventative detention, extraordinary rendition and secret wiretaps? Bad under Bush but ok when a Democrat does it? Where's your outrage now?Have you tried looking in a thread where that's the topic?
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KenOC
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wrote Note that did not translate to supporting the Dems. More like a repudiation of the neocon ( and neolib ) agendas.Which leads me to believe that you and most people on CU (from what I've so far observed) are capable of being able to see both sides of the argument. It is exhausting to ask where was your exultation/outrage when the other team was in power.
So stop asking.
Seriously, I and others did not support GWB bailouts and we do not support Obama bailouts. We disliked deficits under GWB and dislike deficits under Obama. What's hard to understand about this?
It's got exactly dick to do with "teams" and everything to do with policy.
Similarly though, where's the leftist outrage over Obama continuing GWB policies of preventative detention, extraordinary rendition and secret wiretaps? Bad under Bush but ok when a Democrat does it? Where's your outrage now?What's hardest for me to understand is how you took my centralized "let's get along and have real discourse" position and unfeigned compliment to you and this board for being on a higher plane of discussion as a personal affront to your conservative perspective. I'd be happy to privately provide a you a link to my outrage about the exact issues you mentioned... six months ago when the patriot act was reaffirmed.
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kbrown wrote >>
From the publisher's bio, http://www.takeamericaback2010.com"I’m an American who, like many of you, has finally awakened to find my government out of control. Too many politicians have lost touch with ...our Constitution. They are plunging this country into ruin with socialist policies that are crippling America."
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
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KenOC wrote >>
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rus
wrote Note that did not translate to supporting the Dems. More like a repudiation of the neocon ( and neolib ) agendas.Which leads me to believe that you and most people on CU (from what I've so far observed) are capable of being able to see both sides of the argument. It is exhausting to ask where was your exultation/outrage when the other team was in power.
So stop asking.
Seriously, I and others did not support GWB bailouts and we do not support Obama bailouts. We disliked deficits under GWB and dislike deficits under Obama. What's hard to understand about this?
It's got exactly dick to do with "teams" and everything to do with policy.
Similarly though, where's the leftist outrage over Obama continuing GWB policies of preventative detention, extraordinary rendition and secret wiretaps? Bad under Bush but ok when a Democrat does it? Where's your outrage now?What's hardest for me to understand is how you took my centralized "let's get along and have real discourse" position and unfeigned compliment to you and this board for being on a higher plane of discussion as a personal affront to your conservative perspective. I'd be happy to privately provide a you a link to my outrage about the exact issues you mentioned... six months ago when the patriot act was reaffirmed.
Perhaps I misread this bit:
"It is exhausting to ask where was your exultation/outrage when the other team was in power."I read it as you directly asking me where my outrage was. If that's not what you were trying to say... yeah, my bad.
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I can only speak for myself and conservatives I know, but many of us, instead of actively protesting, were looking forward to throwing all the cut-taxes/increase-spending "republican" rinos out on their butts in 2008 in favor of true fiscal conservatives. Instead, the economy tanked, fiscal responsibility went out of vogue as a platform, and the rinos were tossed in favor of even more spend-thrift liberals.
I think, for fiscal conservatives like myself, we just want to get spending policy back in the public debate, since we now have to shout over health care and capt'n trade. Remember, republicans that showed up to tea parties were often booed off the stage.
Also, I don't want my president bro-hugging the likes of chavez.
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