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Central City Recording
Clintonville
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I have nothing but good feelings about this. There is a ridiculous amount of empty space in buildings all around "the Commons" that already exist and will be immediately more attractive for redevelopment. The 4-6 parking lots directly adjacent to the site would be prime locations for new high-rise development. I'd rather have more park with new development replacing surface lots than less park with new development (taking up what coud have been green space) surrounded by surface lots and half vacant buildings...
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HeySquare
German Village
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lifeliberty
Here
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I think this park will be a nice place for Greyhound bus patrons to sit while waitin for their buses. Also, I hope the park has some toilets, as since the city center has closed, there isn't really any close public toilets for people to go, hence the reason someone took a crap in the city center parking deck stairwell over the weekend. If the park can resolve this one issue, I'll be happy.
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jpizzow
580 N. Park St.
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I'm thrilled that this project is finally going to get started but I cannot disagree more with the three buildings fronting High St. This will close off the park to High St. Why would we close off a gem of a park to the main pedestrian and traffic artery of the city? Can anyone say out of sight, out of mind. There are plenty of empty storefronts already. Take care of those first. Build the mixed use buildings on Rich St. and abutting the existing buildings along Town St. and keep the park open to High. Think of Millenium Park in Chicago. It's open to Michigan Ave. People walking by see it and are automatically drawn into it and its various structures and sculptures. Speaking of aesthetics, this park looks very bland. I know it's probably a rough rendering but I see no fountains, scuptures or much public art of any sort. It's all about the eye candy and experience. It should be a true centerpiece. I don't want to experience a bunch of grass and concrete and a few flower beds. I can do that anywhere. It's typcial and normal and that's not what I want to see. All of that aside, I'm still happy to see City Center come down.
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CbusIslander
Cbus Islander
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I will hold judgement till I see "built out" renderings and more detail drawings of the park itself. I am glad that city center is still coming down. I was wondering about the delay. I do agree that there are other locations that high rises could happen.
Not to get off topic but I was wondering about getting additional information on the Unnamed Office Tower and the Dispatch Tower stated in the morpc document? (Page 13)
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kessler
Georgian Heights
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Central City Recording wrote >>
I have nothing but good feelings about this. There is a ridiculous amount of empty space in buildings all around "the Commons" that already exist and will be immediately more attractive for redevelopment. The 4-6 parking lots directly adjacent to the site would be prime locations for new high-rise development. I'd rather have more park with new development replacing surface lots than less park with new development (taking up what coud have been green space) surrounded by surface lots and half vacant buildings...Agreed.
Not meaning to go off topic but;
I'd love to see more surface lots do a 2-3 level underground parking with green space at street level.
Back on topic.
I can't wait for this projects completion! Don't forget the bike racks!Posted 2 years ago # -
surber17
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I only have one issue (and since these are preliminary drawings it might not be an issue at all); why would we have an amphitheater 3 blocks from another one? The Scioto Mile is already in the process on building a pretty large one. I don’t care where they build it, but just pick one spot please.
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lifeontwowheels
Highland West
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Can't hurt things. can it?
Smaller scale one on the Commons for some summer lunch time programing and the larger riverfront one for festivals and what not.
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gramarye
In Exile
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Greenspace has the potential to be a net value enhancement for nearby properties. Not all parks and greenspaces are such positives, however--and, with all due respect to the "pocket parks" movement, smaller ones are often the biggest liabilities. The little green area currently at the corner of High & Rich is a prime example. It's forbidding and uninviting. It's just big enough to break up what could otherwise be a continuous, vibrant streetscape and just small enough that there's really not much you could do on it even if it were more inviting.
I'm not automatically writing it off as a bad idea. The city may surprise me. That said, I'm feeling more lukewarm than sunny on this prospect, and I'm starting to see why NRI decided to go elsewhere (i.e., Grandview Yard) rather than continuing to involve themselves with this project.
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joev
Merion Village
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@gramarye - Really? I like that new greenspace at Rich and High. It's infill from a formerly wide street. It creates a nice pedestrian friendly allée from High Street to what will soon be the Scioto Mile park. A little break from storefronts is pretty refreshing to me, especially with such large-scale buildings on either side of it.
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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alexs wrote >>
I hope they respond to you, I got no response when I mailed them from FOSR.Yeah. I guess this stuff wasn't supposed to come out until Tuesday, but the Dispatch jumped the gun and released it today. I'm getting some more details via email shortly and will have more posted up soon.
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jpizzow
580 N. Park St.
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CbusIslander wrote >>
I will hold judgement till I see "built out" renderings and more detail drawings of the park itself. I am glad that city center is still coming down. I was wondering about the delay. I do agree that there are other locations that high rises could happen.
Not to get off topic but I was wondering about getting additional information on the Unnamed Office Tower and the Dispatch Tower stated in the morpc document? (Page 13)
http://www.morpc.org/trans/MORPC2030LandUseForecasts.pdfLooks like it was written in 2006 so I'm sure those plans for the towers have been shelved. Would be nice though to see what they were planning. I am itching for a new tower or two to go up. It doesn't happen often in this city.
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heresthecasey
OSU
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More renderings of the new design from here:
http://www.downtowncolumbus.com/progress/columbus-commons-renderings
My initial reaction to the new design is somewhat negative compared to what was originally proposed, which isnt helped by the fact that the original design was done up in beautiful watercolors and this is a sterile computer rendering, (im sure the finished product will look much better than this no doubt).
But anyways I'm really most disappointed that there now appears to be no buildings planned to cover up the backside of the 5/3 center and the Ohio theater. As City Center's design has shown us, I think nothing is worse than staring at big blank ugly walls. Maybe they can repaint the building "shadows" mural on the back of them.
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lizless
Columbus/Hocking Hills
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seanguy wrote >>
Now the project is going to have retail along high st. only This is my worst nightmare. This is prime real estate in the middle of the city and downtown. A park is perfect but only as a center piece not taking up 80 percent of the land.
IF you read the fine print of the article is says buildings can only be along High St. because the underground parking garage will not allow for above ground construction so the majority of the project has just been changed from a 70 percent mixed used 30 percent park to majority park land.Hi Sean,
I am a Downtown Commissioner and we were given a presentation by CDDC this past week in preparation for our upcoming meeting and vote on Tuesday.
The main premier "signature building" is slated to be developed on the southeast corner of the park, at Town and 3rd, not just on High Street. Development opportunity exists on the east and south sides of the park, the area directly above the parking garage is the only part that can't be built upon. The areas surrounding the park are available and prime building space.
There are three buildings proposed for High Street with very wide walkways that allow views and ready access to the park. The proposed park will have a wide walkway that runs east to west, perking up Town Street.
This is a great thread, I'm formulating some good questions for the CDDC folks on Tuesday.
Elizabeth Lessner
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heresthecasey
OSU
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If the mall is 3 levels and can sit on top of the parking garage, is it possible to build that height of lower-rise type buildings where the garage is? Or to reinforce it in some way?
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lifeontwowheels
Highland West
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I'm not an engineer, but I imagine the issue is that the existing mall is supported around the exterior of the parking structure where any new building on top would be building on a weaker area.
I'm thinking it might like snow shoes vs. stilettos.
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tree_sketcher
Columbus
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any guess on the size of the signature building on the southeast corner? if the total office square footage is 435,000 and it is reserved for that building (the other three new buildings on the west side are retail and residential), then that would be something like 15-20 stories. the existing building next door is 13 floors and 217,000 sf per the auditors website.
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joev
Merion Village
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joev wrote >>
@gramarye - Really? I like that new greenspace at Rich and High. It's infill from a formerly wide street. It creates a nice pedestrian friendly allée from High Street to what will soon be the Scioto Mile park. A little break from storefronts is pretty refreshing to me, especially with such large-scale buildings on either side of it.Oy - my bad. I was not thinking of the green space in front of City Center, which upon inspection is at Rich and High. I mean, I only walk past it twice a day, how do I know what the streets are? Anyway - yes - that is a great example of a bad use of green space. Would be fun to roll down though.
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